A few problems I thought were important enough to fix: the quickbar on Netscape 4.X (turned out to be an easy fix), additional page-bottom links, CB indenting of lists, some validation tweaks, and redirects in "what links here". In this last case I made it recursive, showing three levels of links to redirects in-order.
I also expanded the logfile, which could be good or bad--because it grows awfully fast, especially with a few instances of that python script running. I'm managed to get a megabyte of logfile without any slowdowns, but I imageine a full day or real user access may reveal something.
The slowest page in general is "Wanted pages", but I can't tell that it's affecting throughput in general. Again, if we see slowdowns tomorrow on general pages we may find out more.
As before, the test site is http://130.94.122.197/
I'm leaving at least one instance of the stressbot running. Others are welcome, but I'm interested in realistic access at the moment. 0
I am not really sure what the 'watch links' link at the bottom of each page is supposed to be/do but always getting:
'Recent changes' (to pages linked from "xxxx") ---- Below are the last 200 ... <nothing else> 'Main Page', etc.
seems to be - at least - strange.
Otherwise, it works fine for me. THANKS for technically improving Wikipedia :-) I would be lost on doing so...
Bye
Tobias
As before, the test site is http://130.94.122.197/
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On Fri, Jul 05, 2002 at 11:27:06AM +0200, Tobias Hoevekamp wrote:
I am not really sure what the 'watch links' link at the bottom of each page is supposed to be/do but always getting:
'Recent changes' (to pages linked from "xxxx")
Below are the last 200 ...
<nothing else> 'Main Page', etc.
seems to be - at least - strange.
The 'watch links' page gives you the recent changes for the links on the page you were watching. So if you select this for "Main page" you get the recent changes for the pages that are linked to from the Main page and since these were not changed the list is empty, although I just saw that [[Geography]] has now been updated. :-) This is very useful if you want to keep an eye on all the important pages for Biology or Mathematics for example.
-- Jan Hidders
Wow! That sounds pretty cool and useful!!! I am looking forward to the new software finally running at wkipedia.
Tobias
The 'watch links' page gives you the recent changes for the links on the page you were watching. So if you select this for "Main page" you get the recent changes for the pages that are linked to from the Main page and since these were not changed the list is empty, although I just saw that [[Geography]] has now been updated. :-) This is very useful if you want to keep an eye on all the important pages for Biology or Mathematics for example.
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On Fri, Jul 05, 2002 at 02:13:02AM -0700, lcrocker@nupedia.com wrote:
[...] and redirects in "what links here". In this last case I made it recursive, showing three levels of links to redirects in-order.
I still think the script should disallow redirects to redirects, but anyways, here's a small bug: (if you think it's a big one I'll add it to bug tracker)
I have made the pages "Redirect" and "Redirect to a redirect" such that they redirect to each other, and made links to both on "user:Jan Hidders". When I ask "What links here" for "Redirect to redirect" I get
* Redirect (redirect page) o User:Jan Hidders * User:Jan Hidders
which is correct but when I ask the same for "Redirect" I get
* user:Jan Hidders
which is not correct because the redirect from "Redirect to a redirect" is missing.
-- Jan Hidders
lcrocker@nupedia.com wrote:
A few problems I thought were important enough to fix: the quickbar on Netscape 4.X (turned out to be an easy fix), additional page-bottom links, CB indenting of lists, some validation tweaks, and redirects in "what links here". In this last case I made it recursive, showing three levels of links to redirects in-order.
Hmmm... let's see how it works. I don't know if these are bugs or intentional so I'll just write what I see happening. :)
The sidebar is still a little dodgy in netscape. When I logged in the sidebar was superimposed on top of the main text. Changing to 'floating left' seems to have repaired the problem. 'Fixed left' works ok too. 'Fixed right' causes the display error.
'Random page' takes me to the same page every single time... I'm not sure whether that's a bug or not.
There is text showing up in red here and there and I'm not sure why. My favourite feature in the wikipedia is the ability to show up nonexistent links in red - it jumps out at you from the page rather than your having to search for little blue question marks... I can't find it in my preferences, so I guess it's been removed from this version? Oh, Ok, I just found it. It wasn't obvious to me that 'highlight links to empty topics' meant 'show them in red'.
I made a test page via a link, but when I click on 'what links here'? It says that there are no links to the page. The link did not show up until I went back and edited the 'Interest' page again.
Something a little strange in a circular redirect. I linked from 'Interest' to 'Interested' which is a redirect to 'Intrest'. 'Intrest' in turn redirects back to 'Interest'. Intrest now appears to be uneditable. When I attempt to edit the intermediary page 'Interest' shows up in the edit window.
Overall, it looks pretty good! Great work. :)lcrocker@nupedia.com wrote:
At 08:10 PM 7/5/02 +1000, you wrote:
lcrocker@nupedia.com wrote:
A few problems I thought were important enough to fix: the quickbar on Netscape 4.X (turned out to be an easy fix),
The sidebar is still a little dodgy in netscape. When I logged in the sidebar was superimposed on top of the main text. Changing to 'floating left' seems to have repaired the problem. 'Fixed left' works ok too. 'Fixed right' causes the display error.
The sidebar defaulted for me on Netscape 4.7 to the left side which was awkward. Had the same problems Karen had when I tried fixed right, some double image with floating left too.
I would prefer default to be fixed right so don't have to move screen to edit. (using a small screen portable).
Also default edit at first seemed way bigger than 80 columns, but changing preference fixed that.
The special pages feature works maybe better than sidebar for small screens, never noticed that before.
Fred Bauder
Another thing...
I picked an entry from the 'most wanted' list ('Cinderella') and made it. But it didn't show up as having any links to it using 'what links here' even though there should have been seven links listed. The same thing happened with 'Cashew'. The only links that showed up on 'what links here' were ones that I made manually after creating the page. eg.'Cashew' links to 'nut' and vice versa.
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