Seeing as how I'm a woman (or am I? I could have been lying, I suppose), you all may want to discount this entirely, but here goes --
Jaap (who may have taken on the name because he wants to be like a certain ex-Man Utd. Central defender) --
Here's a funny thing. You seem to want people to use their own names on the site, and resent KQ's using a pseudonym, while I, who have never used a pseudonym here and even, when asked, provided my credentials, have been: 1) accused of perhaps not being who I say I am and perhaps even of falsely stating my credentials, and; 2) told that, if I am upset that my name is connected with articles I don't find reflect my professional standards, I should perhaps use a pseudonym.
It's a funny ol'world, ain't it?
As for the rest, I'm not that interested in defending myself against silly statements. Make all you want: it only helps to add to the compendium of knowledge that helps us all consider our sources more wisely.
Jules (a nickname reflecting my true given name of Julie)
2) told
that, if I am upset that my name is connected with articles I don't find reflect my professional standards, I should perhaps
use a
pseudonym.
It's a funny ol'world, ain't it?
As for the rest, I'm not that interested in
defending myself > against silly statements.
I'm sorry if you considered my comment a silly advice. It was not meant to shock you in any sense. It was just a thought I had when you said you were in fear you would be mis-considered if it turned out an article you participated in was inaccurate. I did not mean anything else, and I apologize if what I said troubled you. Using a pseudo can be useful in many many ways. And essential sometimes.
Yeah, it's a funny ol'world where people keep misunderstanding the others.
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I had said:
As for the rest, I'm not that interested in
defending myself > against silly statements.
Anthere responded: I'm sorry if you considered my comment a silly advice. It was not meant to shock you in any sense. It was just a thought I had when you said you were in fear you would be mis-considered if it turned out an article you participated in was inaccurate. I did not mean anything else, and I apologize if what I said troubled you. Using a pseudo can be useful in many many ways. And essential sometimes.
Yeah, it's a funny ol'world where people keep misunderstanding the others.
I now say:
Anthere, I did not think your advice was one of the silly statements -- that comment was in regards to Jaaps' ill-considered comparisons to the Evas. I'm sorry if you took it as a slam against you. And you are correct that pseudonyms can be useful. What bothered me was the idea that we as wikipedians would consider it ok to allow articles of such low quality that they *could* be an embarrassment. One of the things I think the wikipedia proves on a day to day basis is that very solid articles can be turned out in a collaborative process by people who are usually not specialists. The downside is that there are also a lot of contributors who aren't with the program and also don't know what makes a solid article. When those people don't actually want to take the time to get to know other wikipedians and perhaps read through some of their contributions ( for an example that has nothing to do with me, check out the recent discussions at talk:Law and the village pump between netesq and others -- perhaps some of the argument would have been more civil had netesq bothered to find out that one of the other people was an international lawyer), it does a disservice to the project and to those fellow wikipedians, IM not so humble O.
Jules
At 2002-09-11 10:35 -0700, Julie Hofmann Kemp wrote:
Seeing as how I'm a woman (or am I? I could have been lying, I suppose), you all may want to discount this entirely, but here goes --
Jaap (who may have taken on the name because he wants to be like a certain ex-Man Utd. Central defender) --
Here's a funny thing. You seem to want people to use their own names on the site, and resent KQ's using a pseudonym, while I, who have never used a pseudonym here and even, when asked, provided my credentials, have been: 1) accused of perhaps not being who I say I am and perhaps even of falsely stating my credentials, and; 2) told that, if I am upset that my name is connected with articles I don't find reflect my professional standards, I should perhaps use a pseudonym.
It's a funny ol'world, ain't it?
As for the rest, I'm not that interested in defending myself against silly statements. Make all you want: it only helps to add to the compendium of knowledge that helps us all consider our sources more wisely.
Jules (a nickname reflecting my true given name of Julie)
Hi Julie,
It's very clear that you're a woman. Men would feel very uncomfortable displaying so much insecurity. As regards what happened on Wikipedia: You can't blame me for that, because I didn't do it. You could try to blame men in general and I'm giggling in advance. (I don't mind showing male weakness...) Anyway, if I were a tyrant running Wikipedia and you would have asked me to intervene in your problem I would probably have solved the question without anyone being able to complain afterwards...
But luckily Wikipedia is not run by a tyrant...
Greetings, Jaap
At 2002-09-12 15:51 -0700, Jimmy Wales wrote:
Jaap van Ganswijk wrote:
But luckily Wikipedia is not run by a tyrant...
Oh, but the temptation...
I was just (indirectly) testing your emotional limits. Men do that, as I explained elsewhere.
Don't worry about it. If we should ever meet 'in the flesh' we'll be best friends and drink beer together.
Greetings, Jaap
Jaap van Ganswijk wrote:
At 2002-09-12 15:51 -0700, Jimmy Wales wrote:
Jaap van Ganswijk wrote:
But luckily Wikipedia is not run by a tyrant...
Oh, but the temptation...
I was just (indirectly) testing your emotional limits. Men do that, as I explained elsewhere.
I don't think you know very much about women. (but then again, neither did TS Eliot)
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