David brought up the idea of publishing some Wikipedia documents as part of the Linux Documentation Project. That reminded me of an old idea: publish a snapshot of the Wikipedia as a downloadable set of static HTML pages that people can use without a net connection, and that could also be burned on CD. No wiki.cgi script needed. If someone clicks on an edit link or RecentChanges, they are directed to the corresponding life Wikipedia page.
By the way, it would be nice if the wikipedia tarballs could be updated, to encourage experimentation like this.
Axel
I believe Google is now sending trafic to static wikipedia pages. For example, Recent Changes is indexed at Google with the adress:
http://www.wikipedia.com/wiki/Recent_Changes
This may be a problem when we change to the script made by Magnus Manske. Does the new script creates stactic pages with the same URL?
Joao http://www.nonio.com
Those only appear to be static pages, through the magic of apache's mod_rewrite.
Yes, I can set up mod_rewrite for Magnus's program. I should do it on the meta site, if I can get the time in the next day or two.
João Mário Miranda wrote:
I believe Google is now sending trafic to static wikipedia pages. For example, Recent Changes is indexed at Google with the adress:
http://www.wikipedia.com/wiki/Recent_Changes
This may be a problem when we change to the script made by Magnus Manske. Does the new script creates stactic pages with the same URL?
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On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Jimmy Wales wrote:
Those only appear to be static pages, through the magic of apache's mod_rewrite.
Yes, I can set up mod_rewrite for Magnus's program. I should do it on the meta site, if I can get the time in the next day or two.
Yes, please, sometime soon. There are zillions of links to Wikipedia pages that will be broken.
(This is only one example of the sort of "housekeeping" we'll have to do in making the change, Manning... Ugh.)
Larry
João Mário Miranda wrote:
I believe Google is now sending trafic to static wikipedia pages. For example, Recent Changes is indexed at Google with the adress:
http://www.wikipedia.com/wiki/Recent_Changes
This may be a problem when we change to the script made by Magnus Manske. Does the new script creates stactic pages with the same URL?
Joao http://www.nonio.com [Wikipedia-l] To manage your subscription to this list, please go here: http://www.nupedia.com/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l
From: "João Mário Miranda" jmiranda@explicacoes.com
I believe Google is now sending trafic to static wikipedia pages. For example, Recent Changes is indexed at Google with the adress:
http://www.wikipedia.com/wiki/Recent_Changes
This may be a problem when we change to the script made by Magnus Manske. Does the new script creates stactic pages with the same URL?
I think someone has already replied to this, but if not, let me just say that I have expressed my concern about this issue a few different times, and Jimbo seems to think he'll be able to set some server settings so that the URLs are exactly the same as they have been.
Larry
The current "real" URL http:www.wikipedia.com/wiki/RecentChanges is internally translated into http://wikipedia.com/wiki.cgi?Recent_Changes by the server software. The same thing will happen to the PHP script. Maybe someone could demonstrate that for the meta.wikipedia?
Magnus
-----Original Message----- From: wikipedia-l-admin@nupedia.com [mailto:wikipedia-l-admin@nupedia.com]On Behalf Of Larry Sanger Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 9:54 PM To: wikipedia-l@nupedia.com Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] Google and Static pages
From: "João Mário Miranda" jmiranda@explicacoes.com
I believe Google is now sending trafic to static wikipedia pages. For example, Recent Changes is indexed at Google with the adress:
http://www.wikipedia.com/wiki/Recent_Changes
This may be a problem when we change to the script made by Magnus Manske. Does the new script creates stactic pages with the same URL?
I think someone has already replied to this, but if not, let me just say that I have expressed my concern about this issue a few different times, and Jimbo seems to think he'll be able to set some server settings so that the URLs are exactly the same as they have been.
Larry
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On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 05:16:37PM +0100, Axel Boldt wrote:
David brought up the idea of publishing some Wikipedia documents as part of the Linux Documentation Project. That reminded me of an old idea: publish a snapshot of the Wikipedia as a downloadable set of static HTML pages that people can use without a net connection, and that could also be burned on CD. No wiki.cgi script needed. If someone clicks on an edit link or RecentChanges, they are directed to the corresponding life Wikipedia page.
No, let me be clear. I am going to distribute portions of Wikipedia along with LDP documents. The wikipedia documents will be Wikipedia documents, not part of the LDP. In fact, I am thinking about having a live link directly to "edit this page" so all readers can edit the documentation. Just bundling Wikipedia content into the LDP would be somehow rude.
Imagine having a live dictionary about Linux at your disposal, complete with HOWTOs. It's such a cool project.
By the way, it would be nice if the wikipedia tarballs could be updated, to encourage experimentation like this.
Yes yes, please. Although perhaps rsync would be more efficient for those of us who will want periodic automated updates.
From: "Axel Boldt" axel@uni-paderborn.de
David brought up the idea of publishing some Wikipedia documents as part of the Linux Documentation Project. That reminded me of an old idea: publish a snapshot of the Wikipedia as a downloadable set of static HTML pages that people can use without a net connection, and that could also be burned on CD. No wiki.cgi script needed. If someone clicks on an edit link or RecentChanges, they are directed to the corresponding life Wikipedia page.
That would be fantastic!
By the way, it would be nice if the wikipedia tarballs could be updated, to encourage experimentation like this.
Yes. I was told a week or two ago that this was soon to be done daily. I don't know if that's now the case, though...squeaking wheels, keep a-squeakin'.
Larry
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