--- Ray Saintonge saintonge@telus.net wrote:
The Cunctator wrote:
People have been talking about the difficulty of
decision-making. So I
invite people to vote on how decisions should be
made.
slowly and incrementally
----
In my country, we don't vote by crossing. We deliberately choose the paper with the option we tactically prefer, and we put that specific paper in the ballot box.
And I don't like voting much.
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|From: Anthere anthere5@yahoo.com |Sender: wikipedia-l-admin@wikipedia.org |Reply-To: wikipedia-l@wikipedia.org |Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:34:52 -0700 (PDT) | | |--- Ray Saintonge saintonge@telus.net wrote: |> The Cunctator wrote: |> |> >People have been talking about the difficulty of |> decision-making. So I |> >invite people to vote on how decisions should be |> made. | | |slowly and incrementally | |---- | |In my country, we don't vote by crossing. |We deliberately choose the paper with the option we |tactically prefer, and we put that specific paper in |the ballot box.
When I first voted in Georgia (U. S. State) we marked out the ones we *didn't* want. Very satisfying.
| |And I don't like voting much. | | We aren't voting. We're canvassing.
This is the easiest cabal in the world to get into, just write some articles, act reasonably, don't be *too* self centered and sarcastic, join the mailing list, and presto-chango, another member of the cabal.
Tom Parmenter Ortolan88
--- Tom Parmenter tompar@world.std.com wrote:
|From: Anthere anthere5@yahoo.com |Sender: wikipedia-l-admin@wikipedia.org |Reply-To: wikipedia-l@wikipedia.org |Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:34:52 -0700 (PDT) | | |--- Ray Saintonge saintonge@telus.net wrote: |> The Cunctator wrote: |> |> >People have been talking about the difficulty of |> decision-making. So I |> >invite people to vote on how decisions should be |> made. | | |slowly and incrementally | |---- | |In my country, we don't vote by crossing. |We deliberately choose the paper with the option we |tactically prefer, and we put that specific paper in |the ballot box.
When I first voted in Georgia (U. S. State) we marked out the ones we *didn't* want. Very satisfying.
I am sure it was. Among the 80% who voted Chirac a few months ago, a lot would have found a lot of satisfaction in marking out the one they *didnot* want. That's a very nice idea.
I absolutely don't want automatic redirection based on the langage on a browser. I think it very intrusive.
I have been looking a bit around on the "Troph�e du Libre" these past two days in case we decide to run for it.
To register, we must provide an url for the project we are working on. It seems very natural (obvious) that the url should be www.wikipedia.org, don't you think ? Then, when the jury will look at the project, since they will be probably french, and very likely on a french computer, with french brower set up, if they type www.wikipedia.org, they could be automatically redirected to the french wikipedia. Honestly, do you think a better view of the project will be given on the fr.wiki or on the en.wiki ??? So, what should we do then ? provide en en.wikipedia.org adress instead for a better assessment of what wikipedia is ? That, for sur, would be a big blow to the internationals wikis.
So, in case redirection is chosen, which url would you prefer we give ? Let's think a bit about promotion also in this decision.
| |And I don't like voting much. | | We aren't voting. We're canvassing.
This is the easiest cabal in the world to get into, just write some articles, act reasonably, don't be *too* self centered and sarcastic, join the mailing list, and presto-chango, another member of the cabal.
So ? I probably didnot get what you meant/implied here....sorry
peace
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Anthere wrote in part:
I have been looking a bit around on the "Trophée du Libre" these past two days in case we decide to run for it.
To register, we must provide an url for the project we are working on. It seems very natural (obvious) that the url should be www.wikipedia.org, don't you think ? Then, when the jury will look at the project, since they will be probably french, and very likely on a french computer, with french brower set up, if they type www.wikipedia.org, they could be automatically redirected to the french wikipedia. Honestly, do you think a better view of the project will be given on the fr.wiki or on the en.wiki ??? So, what should we do then ? provide en en.wikipedia.org adress instead for a better assessment of what wikipedia is ? That, for sur, would be a big blow to the internationals wikis.
So, in case redirection is chosen, which url would you prefer we give ? Let's think a bit about promotion also in this decision.
I think that Anthere has a very good argument here.
OTOH, if we browser sniff with Neil Harris' modification, which puts international stuff at the top of <www.wikipedia.org> and then put <xx.wikipedia.org> after it, this would still work.
-- Toby
On 26-10-2002, Toby Bartels wrote thusly :
Anthere wrote in part:
I have been looking a bit around on the "Trophée du Libre" these past two days in case we decide to run for it. To register, we must provide an url for the project we are working on. It seems very natural (obvious) that the url should be www.wikipedia.org, don't you think ? Then, when the jury will look at the project, since they will be probably french, and very likely on a french computer, with french brower set up, if they type www.wikipedia.org, they could be automatically redirected to the french wikipedia. Honestly, do you think a better view of the project will be given on the fr.wiki or on the en.wiki ??? So, what should we do then ? provide en en.wikipedia.org adress instead for a better assessment of what wikipedia is ? That, for sur, would be a big blow to the internationals wikis. So, in case redirection is chosen, which url would you prefer we give ? Let's think a bit about promotion also in this decision.
I think that Anthere has a very good argument here.
Hello all,
Seriously. I agree there seems to be a problem here.
OTOH, if we browser sniff with Neil Harris' modification, which puts international stuff at the top of <www.wikipedia.org> and then put <xx.wikipedia.org> after it, this would still work.
Semi-seriously. If the redirection is the way to go. The multilingual opening page is _automatically_ redirecting after, say 15 seconds, to a page that redirects without delay to the language being the first in browser preferences. If there is no such language version of Wikipedia is redirecting to the second... If the list is exhausted the user lands in the English Wikipedia.
I hope we are not going in circles with this redirection thing ;-)
Regards, Kpjas.
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