Short of blocking her? She's now claiming to have found all kinds of interesting "proof" of things like "the Soviets fabricated evidence for the Nuremberg trials" and other "suppressed history." Getting a little weird out here in the trenches. She also seems to think that people who were fired or left office during the Truman administration because of supposed (or real) communist ties points to a vast Communist conspiracy. I wonder if she's heard of a certain senator from Wisconsin...
Jules
At 01:21 PM 8/22/02 -0700, you wrote:
"""""" I wonder if she's heard of a certain senator fromWisconsin... Jules
Interesting, when you write in green like that it doesn't come up for the reply. Anyway, she's probably right about the Soviets fabricating evidence, if indeed they had anything to do with the Nuremberg trials and rewriting history was definitely one of their things. But it hardly matters; how much more guilty could the Nazis be? And she's exaggerating about communinist influence in the Truman administration, but not completely wrong. Problem with her is she probably knows about squat about anything American (or Soviet, for that matter). She's just repeating something she got from propaganda.
So she paints with a broad brush in more or less a right direction, but is clueless about the actual details.
I found another one of her things in the genocide article. She claims (or someone very like her) that millions of Germans died after the war during the resettlement from the eastern territories. I left it partly because I know it was a rough time and perhaps a few people did die, but it all seems pretty farfetched.
My only suggestion is an inquiry about where she's getting this stuff and the details. But that is almost sure to fail since she won't be able to provide them and expecting someone else to dig around and find em is pretty hopeless, people who could aren't interested.
Fred
On 22-08-2002, Julie Hofmann Kemp wrote thusly :
Short of blocking her? She's now claiming to have found all kinds of interesting "proof" of things like "the Soviets fabricated evidence for the Nuremberg trials" and other "suppressed history." Getting a little weird out here in the trenches. She also seems to think that people who were fired or left office during the Truman administration because of supposed (or real) communist ties points to a vast Communist conspiracy. I wonder if she's heard of a certain senator from Wisconsin...
I am all for NPOVing articles on Polish-German history. I am sure there is a lot of Communist propaganda in the history fed into our minds during the old regime. The history needs a thorough research, fact, references, common sense and tact.
Helga Jonat's contributions are counter-productive in this respect. This way we can start Polish-Lithuanian Polish-Ukrainian history debates leading to nowhere. L'viv and Vilnius was Polish back in the history. But we must look forward and try to discuss conflicting views. Without all the propaganda.
The history of Europe is convoluted and especially Central Europe, as one of German contributors said most German are good-willed and want to reconcile rather than always look back into difficult histories of our nations.
You can see that dialogue with her is rather difficult and I now am awaiting your comments - what to do with the current situation.
Regards, kpjas.
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