Peace is cool. I don't believe The Cunctator, Nirwin or Larry Sanger are trolls. I remember our page on The Wikipedia Militia, but that was more about newbies than trolls if I remember correctly. My first response to combat trolls was to form lots of software solutions, but going to war really doesn't do any good. When we build up things to protect us from vandals, they just build better software solutions to vandalize, and we just build... ad nauseum.

24 is different from everyone so far because no one else has even denied someone their personhood or refused to login and participate in the community. Yes, I did take his comment personally about being a non-person and I'll admit that... so as far as I'm concerned he caused me bodily harm. heh Of course, it may eventually come to a point like protecting the homepage that we have to only allow logged in users to participate. It will be sad if it reaches that point, but the day may come. :(

I thought about dropping out of the English Wikipedia project because it was just getting too emotional, but decided that would just be letting him win his little game. Yes, I will call him a him (instead of it) because he deserves to be treated as a person even if he's not acting like it.

I think we need to really plan ahead and figure out how to peacefully defend against this kind of attack without losing too much of our resources as a result. Imagine if you will that we have our own world (and in a way we do, but stick with me here...) and we accept everybody then what do we do with those who don't follow the community guidelines?

Sorry for the rambles, but the whole idea of punishment for crimes seems dreadfully obsolete (and it wouldn't even work in this case anyway) and I'm trying to see alternatives, but I can't think of any. I remember that when I worked for about.com, we had a conference call at one point and it was really cool, but I'm not sure if that would really work in this situation, but it might be worth thinking about.

BTW, this is all complete brainstorm... my uncensored thoughts, scary, eh? :) Remember, we're making ground-breaking history here, so we're going to encounter problems that have never been faced before... and finally, thanks to everybody for all I've learned working on this project, remember it is worth all the hard work! :-)

Chuck

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