Magnus's PHP version of the Wikipedia is now available at:
Http://php.wikipedia.com/
You can also find another PHP and MySQL version of the WikiWiki software in use at:
http://phpwiki.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/
Perhaps we might be able to get some ideas and/or code from these guys. I don't know what license Magnus's version has, but the phpwiki at the above link is GPLed, and has some useful features which we might want to implement on our own PHP wiki. One such feature, which has been very useful to me on the current UseModWiki based version of WikiPedia is DIFF.
Anyway, I now see that the code for Magnus's version is up, so I can look more closely at the differences...
-----Original Message----- From: lsanger@ross.bomis.com [mailto:lsanger@ross.bomis.com] Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 3:05 PM To: 'wikipedia-l@nupedia.com' Subject: RE: [Wikipedia-l] PHP Wikipedia, Part 2
If anyone ever uploads an Internet-accessible version of the wiki, I'd sure like to see it.
Larry
On Sat, 25 Aug 2001, Mark Christensen wrote:
I've been tooling around on the php wikipedia, and it is very nice! Congratulations.
Great job with the statistics page, it'll be very useful.
The parser works well with the couple pages I imported, generally I'm very impressed.
Are you planning to post the code for this on one of the php.wikipedia.com pages as you mentioned in a previous e-mail. I'd be very interested in seeing it.
The one problem I see thus far is that UseModWiki allows subpage links on
a
subpage to other subpages of the main page. I know that's not the best description, but in the original wikipedia software a [[/subtalk]] link on [[MainPage/talk]] would lead to [[MainPage/subtalk]]. We may not want to emulate this, as it is certainly not intuitive, but there are a lot of pages, like poker, with subpages that link to other subpages -- either our parser needs to automatically translate these links or the PHP wikipedia should deal with them in the same way as UseModWiki.
Yours Mark Christensen
-----Original Message----- From: Magnus Manske [mailto:Magnus.Manske@epost.de] Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 3:30 AM To: Wikipedia-L@Nupedia. Com Subject: [Wikipedia-l] PHP Wikipedia, Part 2
Jason is activating php.wikipedia.com for the script to test, which should be working later today. So, soon you can flood me with bug reports ;)
Some points that were mentioned on the list while I was asleep:
Larry, I don't oppose CVS as such, I just thought why bother... So, I wouldn't mind a CVS at all.
Edit locks : I thought they'd protect a page that is edited for a
certain
time, e.g., 5 minutes, so there won't be two edits of the same text at the same time. Now that I know it's only for writing, I am glad to not have wasted time in implementing such a thing in my script ;) The MySQL server will take care of the write-at-the-same-time problem,
for
sure.
- /Talk pages : Changing the standard text for new documents so they'd
have
a /Talk page should do it, right? I could also have the parser look for "/Talk" and append it if necessary in a "top-level" article.
- Conversion to SQL format : The easiest way I can think of is a script
that
goes through all articles in the current wikipedia and generates a
complete
article text in chronoligical order (oldest first). After each "version"
is
generated, a variant of my script can store it in the DB. That would
ensure
identical data. Anyone to write a "generation" script?
- Lame names : How about "Aide-Pikiw" (wikipedia spelled backwards)? That
must be the lamest, for sure? ;)
Magnus
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Sorry, I forgot. I hereby put my script under GNU licence.
Magnus
-----Original Message----- From: wikipedia-l-admin@nupedia.com [mailto:wikipedia-l-admin@nupedia.com]On Behalf Of Mark Christensen Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 9:20 PM To: 'wikipedia-l@nupedia.com' Subject: RE: [Wikipedia-l] PHP Wikipedia, Part 2
Magnus's PHP version of the Wikipedia is now available at:
Http://php.wikipedia.com/
You can also find another PHP and MySQL version of the WikiWiki software in use at:
http://phpwiki.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/
Perhaps we might be able to get some ideas and/or code from these guys. I don't know what license Magnus's version has, but the phpwiki at the above link is GPLed, and has some useful features which we might want to implement on our own PHP wiki. One such feature, which has been very useful to me on the current UseModWiki based version of WikiPedia is DIFF.
Anyway, I now see that the code for Magnus's version is up, so I can look more closely at the differences...
-----Original Message----- From: lsanger@ross.bomis.com [mailto:lsanger@ross.bomis.com] Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 3:05 PM To: 'wikipedia-l@nupedia.com' Subject: RE: [Wikipedia-l] PHP Wikipedia, Part 2
If anyone ever uploads an Internet-accessible version of the wiki, I'd sure like to see it.
Larry
On Sat, 25 Aug 2001, Mark Christensen wrote:
I've been tooling around on the php wikipedia, and it is very nice! Congratulations.
Great job with the statistics page, it'll be very useful.
The parser works well with the couple pages I imported,
generally I'm very
impressed.
Are you planning to post the code for this on one of the
php.wikipedia.com
pages as you mentioned in a previous e-mail. I'd be very interested in seeing it.
The one problem I see thus far is that UseModWiki allows
subpage links on a
subpage to other subpages of the main page. I know that's not the best description, but in the original wikipedia software a
[[/subtalk]] link on
[[MainPage/talk]] would lead to [[MainPage/subtalk]]. We may
not want to
emulate this, as it is certainly not intuitive, but there are a lot of pages, like poker, with subpages that link to other subpages --
either our
parser needs to automatically translate these links or the PHP wikipedia should deal with them in the same way as UseModWiki.
Yours Mark Christensen
-----Original Message----- From: Magnus Manske [mailto:Magnus.Manske@epost.de] Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 3:30 AM To: Wikipedia-L@Nupedia. Com Subject: [Wikipedia-l] PHP Wikipedia, Part 2
Jason is activating php.wikipedia.com for the script to test,
which should
be working later today. So, soon you can flood me with bug reports ;)
Some points that were mentioned on the list while I was asleep:
Larry, I don't oppose CVS as such, I just thought why bother... So, I wouldn't mind a CVS at all.
Edit locks : I thought they'd protect a page that is edited for a
certain
time, e.g., 5 minutes, so there won't be two edits of the same
text at the
same time. Now that I know it's only for writing, I am glad to not have wasted time in implementing such a thing in my script ;) The MySQL server will take care of the write-at-the-same-time problem,
for
sure.
- /Talk pages : Changing the standard text for new documents so they'd
have
a /Talk page should do it, right? I could also have the parser look for "/Talk" and append it if necessary in a "top-level" article.
- Conversion to SQL format : The easiest way I can think of is a script
that
goes through all articles in the current wikipedia and generates a
complete
article text in chronoligical order (oldest first). After each "version"
is
generated, a variant of my script can store it in the DB. That would
ensure
identical data. Anyone to write a "generation" script?
- Lame names : How about "Aide-Pikiw" (wikipedia spelled
backwards)? That
must be the lamest, for sure? ;)
Magnus
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I am putting some comments on http://php.wikipedia.com/niki.phtml?title=Larry_Sanger&action=view
I have lots of comments. :-)
Larry
On Sat, 25 Aug 2001, Magnus Manske wrote:
Sorry, I forgot. I hereby put my script under GNU licence.
Magnus
-----Original Message----- From: wikipedia-l-admin@nupedia.com [mailto:wikipedia-l-admin@nupedia.com]On Behalf Of Mark Christensen Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 9:20 PM To: 'wikipedia-l@nupedia.com' Subject: RE: [Wikipedia-l] PHP Wikipedia, Part 2
Magnus's PHP version of the Wikipedia is now available at:
Http://php.wikipedia.com/
You can also find another PHP and MySQL version of the WikiWiki software in use at:
http://phpwiki.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/
Perhaps we might be able to get some ideas and/or code from these guys. I don't know what license Magnus's version has, but the phpwiki at the above link is GPLed, and has some useful features which we might want to implement on our own PHP wiki. One such feature, which has been very useful to me on the current UseModWiki based version of WikiPedia is DIFF.
Anyway, I now see that the code for Magnus's version is up, so I can look more closely at the differences...
-----Original Message----- From: lsanger@ross.bomis.com [mailto:lsanger@ross.bomis.com] Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 3:05 PM To: 'wikipedia-l@nupedia.com' Subject: RE: [Wikipedia-l] PHP Wikipedia, Part 2
If anyone ever uploads an Internet-accessible version of the wiki, I'd sure like to see it.
Larry
On Sat, 25 Aug 2001, Mark Christensen wrote:
I've been tooling around on the php wikipedia, and it is very nice! Congratulations.
Great job with the statistics page, it'll be very useful.
The parser works well with the couple pages I imported,
generally I'm very
impressed.
Are you planning to post the code for this on one of the
php.wikipedia.com
pages as you mentioned in a previous e-mail. I'd be very interested in seeing it.
The one problem I see thus far is that UseModWiki allows
subpage links on a
subpage to other subpages of the main page. I know that's not the best description, but in the original wikipedia software a
[[/subtalk]] link on
[[MainPage/talk]] would lead to [[MainPage/subtalk]]. We may
not want to
emulate this, as it is certainly not intuitive, but there are a lot of pages, like poker, with subpages that link to other subpages --
either our
parser needs to automatically translate these links or the PHP wikipedia should deal with them in the same way as UseModWiki.
Yours Mark Christensen
-----Original Message----- From: Magnus Manske [mailto:Magnus.Manske@epost.de] Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 3:30 AM To: Wikipedia-L@Nupedia. Com Subject: [Wikipedia-l] PHP Wikipedia, Part 2
Jason is activating php.wikipedia.com for the script to test,
which should
be working later today. So, soon you can flood me with bug reports ;)
Some points that were mentioned on the list while I was asleep:
Larry, I don't oppose CVS as such, I just thought why bother... So, I wouldn't mind a CVS at all.
Edit locks : I thought they'd protect a page that is edited for a
certain
time, e.g., 5 minutes, so there won't be two edits of the same
text at the
same time. Now that I know it's only for writing, I am glad to not have wasted time in implementing such a thing in my script ;) The MySQL server will take care of the write-at-the-same-time problem,
for
sure.
- /Talk pages : Changing the standard text for new documents so they'd
have
a /Talk page should do it, right? I could also have the parser look for "/Talk" and append it if necessary in a "top-level" article.
- Conversion to SQL format : The easiest way I can think of is a script
that
goes through all articles in the current wikipedia and generates a
complete
article text in chronoligical order (oldest first). After each "version"
is
generated, a variant of my script can store it in the DB. That would
ensure
identical data. Anyone to write a "generation" script?
- Lame names : How about "Aide-Pikiw" (wikipedia spelled
backwards)? That
must be the lamest, for sure? ;)
Magnus
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