"Erik Moeller" erik_moeller@gmx.de schrieb:
Concentrate, yes. Ignore the noise, no. We have to draw the line *somewhere*, and if you do not suggest an alternative to the 10,000 speaker requirement I have to presume that you want to draw it *nowhere*. The inclusion of Toki Pona sets a highly questionable precedent.
10,000 speakers, or whichever other number, does not sound like the best of limits. For one thing, I don't want to disqualify the Nauruan Wikipedia (or the Manx one, for that matter). I'd say the rules for ISO 639-2 are quite close to what we would want: One needs to be able to prove that there are 5 institutes which taken together and discounting equal documents, have 50 documents in the language.
I'd say that a similar requirement, but used less strict, would be a good criterium. Thus I would propose to allow languages in the following three categories: * that are on the ISO 639-2 list * for which it is made likely that there are 50 or more different documents in various archives * which are spoken by at least 10,000 people, provided there exists some kind of generally accepted spelling
As another thing, what do we do with dialects? Would dialects with a reasonable amount of speakers and some kind of literature in the dialect be allowed to get their own Wikipedia version?
Andre Engels
Andre-
10,000 speakers, or whichever other number, does not sound like the best of limits. For one thing, I don't want to disqualify the Nauruan Wikipedia (or the Manx one, for that matter).
I personally don't think Nauruan and Manx will ever get anywhere, and speakers of both are almost always bilingual in English (the ones who aren't are unlikely to have access to Wikipedia). Nauru today is primarily an Australian prison colony for "dirty immigrants".
However, in the interest of wikipeace I would be willing to accept your 50 document requirement, provided that we are talking about *non-digital* archives (the word archive is far too vague otherwise). The burden of proof should be on the person who wants to start a new Wikipedia.
Furthermore, I suggest that the Toki Pona Wikipedia is removed from Wikimedia and moved to the Unilang wiki instead: http://www.unilang2.org/main/wiki/wiki.phtml
It seems to be perfectly suitable for that purpose.
Regards,
Erik
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