I'd like to give readers the choice of where the ISBN links go to. ...
It's actually easier to implement as a special page as Brion points out: ISBNs will generate a link to "/wiki/Special:Booksources?isbn=XXXXX", and that special page will have links to Pricescan, AddAll, Amazon, or whatever else we feel like adding, and even text explaining the different benefits of each site.
lcrocker@nupedia.com wrote:
It's actually easier to implement as a special page as Brion points out: ISBNs will generate a link to "/wiki/Special:Booksources?isbn=XXXXX", and that special page will have links to Pricescan, AddAll, Amazon, or whatever else we feel like adding, and even text explaining the different benefits of each site.
This has the added benefit for the paranoid anti-corporate set of not making it look like Wikipedia is forcing commercial links down the throats of the unwary. Remember, we don't want to end up looking like The Fact Factory. ;)
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
Brion VIBBER wrote:
This has the added benefit for the paranoid anti-corporate set of not making it look like Wikipedia is forcing commercial links down the throats of the unwary. Remember, we don't want to end up looking like The Fact Factory. ;)
As the recipient of such negative sentiments, I think this is pretty important.
It would not be a bad thing for these links to generate money for the project, so that the project can buy the next round of servers instead of me buying the next round of servers. But, we have a _mission_ here that's very important. We want to avoid even the appearance of impropriety.
The wiki nature provides a fairly absolute check against corporate money influencing the reporting of the encyclopedia, but nevertheless, we want to stay squeaky clean on that front, even if we do someday choose to generate revenue from affiliate book links.
One way to do that would be to say: look, here's a bunch of book stores. Use the one that's best for you. We don't like Amazon much, for reasons X, Y, and Z. But if you are going to shop there anyway, please use this link so that they make less money and wikipedia can have a little dough for new servers and what not.
I also think full disclosure of any revenue, when and if that happens, will be important.
But seriously, I think that the best method of revenue will be a program of sponsorship where we can accept credit cards and people can sign up for a monthly patronage. I think plenty of the regulars would be willing to chip in $10 or $20 a month, particularly if they could see, transparently, that the money would not be to finance my extravagant lifestyle, but to directly benefit the project through hardware purchases and whatnot.
--Jimbo
--- Jimmy Wales jwales@bomis.com wrote:
One way to do that would be to say: look, here's a bunch of book stores. Use the one that's best for you. We don't like Amazon much, for reasons X, Y, and Z. But if you are going to shop there anyway, please use this link so that they make less money and wikipedia can have a little dough for new servers and what not.
The problem is, such a strategy would probably drive away a significant amount of people. "Wikipedia doesn't like Amazon, but they make money off of Amazon sales? Humph." It's not worth a couple of bucks.
That being said, I don't think we should expect Jimbo to keep us in servers for the rest of his life...
Stephen G.
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Jimbo wrote at last:
But seriously, I think that the best method of revenue will be a program of sponsorship where we can accept credit cards and people can sign up for a monthly patronage. I think plenty of the regulars would be willing to chip in $10 or $20 a month, particularly if they could see, transparently, that the money would not be to finance my extravagant lifestyle, but to directly benefit the project through hardware purchases and whatnot.
Ah, but this finances your extravagant lifestyle *indirectly*, if subscriptions purchase hardware that you otherwise would have.
^_^
-- Toby
At 11:27 AM 8/29/02 -0700, you wrote:
I'd like to give readers the choice of where the ISBN links go to. ...
It's actually easier to implement as a special page as Brion points out: ISBNs will generate a link to "/wiki/Special:Booksources?isbn=XXXXX", and that special page will have links to Pricescan, AddAll, Amazon, or whatever else we feel like adding, and even text explaining the different benefits of each site.
Perhaps a link [Find the book] with links to Library of congress, CARL, AddAll, Addall Used, Pricescan, ABEbooks, etc. Some of these will find used books, some will find copies of books without ISBNs.
Fred Bauder
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