PP> It is very strange that no-one seems to have picked up on this. PP> There are clearly many many more links to http://www.wikipedia.org PP> (expecting to link to an English language encyclopedia) than ever PP> before. The decision has been taken to break these links. What kind of broken links are you talking about? If they are to the main page, then whoever goes there can simply click on the "English" link with no confusion whatsoever. And if you're talking about the http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/something links, they all redirect to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/something. -- Ausir Wikipedia, wolna encyklopedia http://pl.wikipedia.org

Pete/Pcb21 a écrit: 1) The address www.wikipedia.org become obsolete 2 years ago. On the net, 2 years is a life-time. 2) Besides, 2 years ago, the english wikipedia was far smaller than today, so most of the pages just never existed at the address in www. 3) Finally, unless I really misunderstood something, all pages ARE redirected, so there are NO links broken. The only thing the reader could notice is the change of url (tiny change). Honestly, most sites just do not pay so much attention to their readers. Let me give you another example : Please, type the following url in your browser http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/incivility. Where does it go ? Broken or english wikipedia article explaining what uncivility is ? I am ready to listen arguments in favor of keeping www.wikipedia.org the adresse for the english wikipedia. I know of no arguments for now. What are those ? You are free to organise a poll on meta for the "unwashed masses" with the following choices (while not forgetting to mention no links will be broken) a) keep www.wikipedia.org a redirect to the english wikipedia b) change it, for example to have www.wikipedia.org a portal mentioning all wikipedia languages (or a similar type of solution) I expect an absolutely unprecedented support for our project, of at least 80%. I would be happy of a 90% of support. I am quite confident that any non english wikipedia will disapprove keeping the www.wikipedia.org the adresse of the english wikipedia only. And I am confident many english editors will not support it either, as most understand the importance of us being a multilingual project. May I remind you that today the number of pages in a language which is not english is superior to the number of pages in english, and that the german language is getting a very significant proportion of the english wikipedia as well ? For this reason, I will not even take the time to do it. I invite you to do this poll if you feel that "unwashed masses" are not taken into consideration (which truely amaze me given the amount of discussion I have seen in 3 years on that topic). But PLEASE, if you feel left out, DO make that poll. This should be a very simple poll which will not require a lot of time to you. There is a doctrine on Wikipedia which is "be bold", but any true wikipedian knows very well that being bold against community wish generally brings no good. However, it is good to be bold, because this is how things progress. Just need to wait the right moment to do it. I think this is now :-)

Pete/Pcb21 <pete_pcb21_wpmail@...> writes: It is true what you say. There are links to www.wikipedia.org whit the idea that it is the English Wikipedia. There are probably even more to www.wikipedia.com. The English Wikipedia have used the domain www.wikipedia.com but never www.wikipedia.org. And the time that Wikipedia EN was using www.wikipedia.com is before Wikipedia became famous. I read almost every article about Wikipedia the you find whit google News. Those articles are about the English Wikipedia. I happens a lot that the write about www.wikipedia.com or www.wikipedia.org in the article. The fact that many persons, even journalist who write about websites, are so incompetent that the can not even get the url correct is very sad but is not the problem of Wikipdia. Wikipedia is not responsible for the stupidity of the humans. [[w:nl:gebruiker:walter]]