In the Netherlands many people have credit cards, but most people only use them occasionally (travel, dinner, new TV) and most people are hesitant to use them on the web. Debit cards are much more popular; we also use chip cards which are preloaded from a bank account and used like a purse, no online transactions involved.
I do use my credit card for Paypal, Amazon and the like, but not without some concern. Web transactions are often secure these days, but occasionally a large firm is hacked and a whole customer database is compromised.
By far the most common method of asynchronous payment is by direct bank transfer, no checks involved, no costs whatsoever, no paper work either, most people do this electronically (they do trust the proprietary bank software, which they believe is less easy to hack). For many people Paypal would mean an investment in time, which might weigh heavier than the financial investment.
Erik Zachte
I'm sure Jimmy will be happy to accept an international money order sent through the mail, for those unable or unwilling to use whatever electronic payment options are set up so far.
Is there an address for such?
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
Yes, The address of record for Wikipedia Foundation Inc. (I don't post it here for fear of it creating lots of junk mail for Jimmy). You can find it on the Wikimedia page, just click on the external link that mentions the Corporate Charter of Wikimedia Foundation Inc. That is a matter of public record (I am sure he is already getting mail, mailing list companies routinely cull state incorporation sites for new mailing addresses). Alex756
From: "Brion Vibber" vibber@aludra.usc.edu
I'm sure Jimmy will be happy to accept an international money order sent through the mail, for those unable or unwilling to use whatever electronic payment options are set up so far.
Is there an address for such?
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 3911 Harrisburg St., NE St. Petersburg, FL 33703
And yes, I already get plenty of junk mail. :-(
Alex R. wrote:
Yes, The address of record for Wikipedia Foundation Inc. (I don't post it here for fear of it creating lots of junk mail for Jimmy). You can find it on the Wikimedia page, just click on the external link that mentions the Corporate Charter of Wikimedia Foundation Inc. That is a matter of public record (I am sure he is already getting mail, mailing list companies routinely cull state incorporation sites for new mailing addresses). Alex756
From: "Brion Vibber" vibber@aludra.usc.edu
I'm sure Jimmy will be happy to accept an international money order sent through the mail, for those unable or unwilling to use whatever electronic payment options are set up so far.
Is there an address for such?
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
Wikipedia-l mailing list Wikipedia-l@Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l
Erik Zachte wrote:
For many people Paypal would mean an investment in time, which might weigh heavier than the financial investment.
Well, I certainly agree with that. I don't see any reason not to expand what we can accept as broadly as possible, and to keep it as easy for everyone as possible. It's a shame to miss out on support because someone, quite legitimately, doesn't feel like signing up for yet another web thingy.
What are some options for me, then, that would be sensible?
--Jimbo
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