Hey fellow wikipedians, The situation at the pages fro new language proposals is growing very hot and troublesome.
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Node_ue
Mostly due to Mark's abuse. He is very opinionated and supports one language and not another and he has been asked by several people to stop messing up efforts to get new proposals and incubator pages going but he insists in exerting his own point of view.
Especially troubling for me is the issue with the Andalusian incubator page. It seems to have been deleted. There are several wikipedians interested and there is a test wiki at Wikia. The Test-wp page in Incubator was different and offered some solutions to the divisiveness that arose in considering this language.
I'm asking for your help in looking into this matter. We need to provide a non-opinionated and slanted solution to the issue of dealing with new proposals. If Wikipedia gives the impression of being slanted and non-NPOV it stops being Wikipedia.
Mark needs some scolding, and whoever is purposely attacking the proposal of an Andalusian Wiki should be warned to stop as well.
With sincere regards, Jay B. User:ILVI
2006/8/28, Mark Williamson node.ue@gmail.com:
Psh, I haven't even been on Meta for a few weeks.
And as I noted, it's not my opinion, but rather previous norms -- for example, that you don't delete votes (as was done at the Zazaki vote, but when I was banned for reverting it, I invited others to do it as well and now it is widely accepted that one may delete whatever votes one wishes), that versions need at least one native or fluent speaker to be "approved" (as Taichi did with Old Norse and Old Church Slavonic, which I reverted, and Taichi banned me for, but for which I was unbanned by Jon Harald Soby, and then was threatened to be banned for again by Amgine).
The fact is, Jay, you are for some reason biased against me. You hate me for no logical reason. In all my previous encounters with you, you have been extremely hostile towards me.
Mark
On 08/09/06, ilooy ilooy.gaon@gmail.com wrote:
Hey fellow wikipedians, The situation at the pages fro new language proposals is growing very hot and troublesome.
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Node_ue
Mostly due to Mark's abuse. He is very opinionated and supports one language and not another and he has been asked by several people to stop messing up efforts to get new proposals and incubator pages going but he insists in exerting his own point of view.
Especially troubling for me is the issue with the Andalusian incubator page. It seems to have been deleted. There are several wikipedians interested and there is a test wiki at Wikia. The Test-wp page in Incubator was different and offered some solutions to the divisiveness that arose in considering this language.
I'm asking for your help in looking into this matter. We need to provide a non-opinionated and slanted solution to the issue of dealing with new proposals. If Wikipedia gives the impression of being slanted and non-NPOV it stops being Wikipedia.
Mark needs some scolding, and whoever is purposely attacking the proposal of an Andalusian Wiki should be warned to stop as well.
With sincere regards, Jay B. User:ILVI
2006/8/28, Mark Williamson node.ue@gmail.com:
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2006/9/8, Mark Williamson node.ue@gmail.com:
Psh, I haven't even been on Meta for a few weeks.
Mark, as you'll note if you re-read my posting there are others, and it is very obvious to me you have 'other' identities on Wikipedia. So maybe you haven't logged in as Node ue but it seems someone with your m.o. is at work.
The fact is, Jay, you are for some reason biased against me. You hate me for no logical reason. In all my previous encounters with you, you have been extremely hostile towards me. Mark
Not at all Mark. Not personal, only I don't agree with your methods and your efforts to impose your opinions over others.
Why is the Andalusian test wiki deleated from Incubator? Why were you banned several times in different guises from several language wikis?
Definitely not personal, but maybe against some of your personae which to me seem to be very biased and slanted towards one opinion.
I ask that the issue of the deletion of the Andalusian Test wiki be looked into. My feeling is you had something to do with this as you've been warned before for vandalizing the efforts to establish a wiki in Andalusian.
Sincerely, Jay Bowks
You know, looking at the situation from a neutral perspective, I'd be suggesting a 1 month block for node ue for policy violations and personal attacks, but thats just my opinion.
Seriously though, guys, can you just learn to solve your differences on your own? Its bad enough having just about every topic raised on wikien-l. Sure, CC your communications to the mailing list as you go, but really you should be contacting each other and working out your dispute like human beings. Of course, thats just my opinion too.
And Mark, you clearly aren't helping, with personal attacks all over the place. If you could just calm down, it would solve a lot of problems.
On 9/9/06, ilooy ilooy.gaon@gmail.com wrote:
2006/9/8, Mark Williamson node.ue@gmail.com:
Psh, I haven't even been on Meta for a few weeks.
Mark, as you'll note if you re-read my posting there are others, and it is very obvious to me you have 'other' identities on Wikipedia. So maybe you haven't logged in as Node ue but it seems someone with your m.o. is at work.
The fact is, Jay, you are for some reason biased against me. You hate me for no logical reason. In all my previous encounters with you, you have been extremely hostile towards me. Mark
Not at all Mark. Not personal, only I don't agree with your methods and your efforts to impose your opinions over others.
Why is the Andalusian test wiki deleated from Incubator? Why were you banned several times in different guises from several language wikis?
Definitely not personal, but maybe against some of your personae which to me seem to be very biased and slanted towards one opinion.
I ask that the issue of the deletion of the Andalusian Test wiki be looked into. My feeling is you had something to do with this as you've been warned before for vandalizing the efforts to establish a wiki in Andalusian.
Sincerely, Jay Bowks
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Where exactly are my personal attacks?
On 08/09/06, Akash Mehta draicone@gmail.com wrote:
You know, looking at the situation from a neutral perspective, I'd be suggesting a 1 month block for node ue for policy violations and personal attacks, but thats just my opinion.
Seriously though, guys, can you just learn to solve your differences on your own? Its bad enough having just about every topic raised on wikien-l. Sure, CC your communications to the mailing list as you go, but really you should be contacting each other and working out your dispute like human beings. Of course, thats just my opinion too.
And Mark, you clearly aren't helping, with personal attacks all over the place. If you could just calm down, it would solve a lot of problems.
On 9/9/06, ilooy ilooy.gaon@gmail.com wrote:
2006/9/8, Mark Williamson node.ue@gmail.com:
Psh, I haven't even been on Meta for a few weeks.
Mark, as you'll note if you re-read my posting there are others, and it is very obvious to me you have 'other' identities on Wikipedia. So maybe you haven't logged in as Node ue but it seems someone with your m.o. is at work.
The fact is, Jay, you are for some reason biased against me. You hate me for no logical reason. In all my previous encounters with you, you have been extremely hostile towards me. Mark
Not at all Mark. Not personal, only I don't agree with your methods and your efforts to impose your opinions over others.
Why is the Andalusian test wiki deleated from Incubator? Why were you banned several times in different guises from several language wikis?
Definitely not personal, but maybe against some of your personae which to me seem to be very biased and slanted towards one opinion.
I ask that the issue of the deletion of the Andalusian Test wiki be looked into. My feeling is you had something to do with this as you've been warned before for vandalizing the efforts to establish a wiki in Andalusian.
Sincerely, Jay Bowks
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http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AFratele_lui_Bonapart...
and
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Offensive-email.jpg
would be a start. You've been warned on your talk page about a month ago on the issue of personal attacks (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Node_ue#I_see_you_are_circumventing....).
On 9/9/06, Mark Williamson node.ue@gmail.com wrote:
Where exactly are my personal attacks?
On 08/09/06, Akash Mehta draicone@gmail.com wrote:
You know, looking at the situation from a neutral perspective, I'd be suggesting a 1 month block for node ue for policy violations and personal attacks, but thats just my opinion.
Seriously though, guys, can you just learn to solve your differences on your own? Its bad enough having just about every topic raised on wikien-l. Sure, CC your communications to the mailing list as you go, but really you should be contacting each other and working out your dispute like human beings. Of course, thats just my opinion too.
And Mark, you clearly aren't helping, with personal attacks all over the place. If you could just calm down, it would solve a lot of problems.
On 9/9/06, ilooy ilooy.gaon@gmail.com wrote:
2006/9/8, Mark Williamson node.ue@gmail.com:
Psh, I haven't even been on Meta for a few weeks.
Mark, as you'll note if you re-read my posting there are others, and it is very obvious to me you have 'other' identities on Wikipedia. So maybe you haven't logged in as Node ue but it seems someone with your m.o. is at work.
The fact is, Jay, you are for some reason biased against me. You hate me for no logical reason. In all my previous encounters with you, you have been extremely hostile towards me. Mark
Not at all Mark. Not personal, only I don't agree with your methods and your efforts to impose your opinions over others.
Why is the Andalusian test wiki deleated from Incubator? Why were you banned several times in different guises from several language wikis?
Definitely not personal, but maybe against some of your personae which to me seem to be very biased and slanted towards one opinion.
I ask that the issue of the deletion of the Andalusian Test wiki be looked into. My feeling is you had something to do with this as you've been warned before for vandalizing the efforts to establish a wiki in Andalusian.
Sincerely, Jay Bowks
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1) Not a personal attack. Also, it pales in comparison to the stuff Bonaparte has said to me, including slurs against my ethnic background, national origin, and sexual orientation, for which he has been banned indefinitely on en.wp.
2) That was partly forged, was in private correspondence (to which such rules don't apply), and pales in comparison to the e-mail to which it was in response, which called all Moldovan women whores.
3) Yes, a warning that cited no incidences.
Mark
On 08/09/06, Akash Mehta draicone@gmail.com wrote:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AFratele_lui_Bonapart...
and
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Offensive-email.jpg
would be a start. You've been warned on your talk page about a month ago on the issue of personal attacks (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Node_ue#I_see_you_are_circumventing....).
On 9/9/06, Mark Williamson node.ue@gmail.com wrote:
Where exactly are my personal attacks?
On 08/09/06, Akash Mehta draicone@gmail.com wrote:
You know, looking at the situation from a neutral perspective, I'd be suggesting a 1 month block for node ue for policy violations and personal attacks, but thats just my opinion.
Seriously though, guys, can you just learn to solve your differences on your own? Its bad enough having just about every topic raised on wikien-l. Sure, CC your communications to the mailing list as you go, but really you should be contacting each other and working out your dispute like human beings. Of course, thats just my opinion too.
And Mark, you clearly aren't helping, with personal attacks all over the place. If you could just calm down, it would solve a lot of problems.
On 9/9/06, ilooy ilooy.gaon@gmail.com wrote:
2006/9/8, Mark Williamson node.ue@gmail.com:
Psh, I haven't even been on Meta for a few weeks.
Mark, as you'll note if you re-read my posting there are others, and it is very obvious to me you have 'other' identities on Wikipedia. So maybe you haven't logged in as Node ue but it seems someone with your m.o. is at work.
The fact is, Jay, you are for some reason biased against me. You hate me for no logical reason. In all my previous encounters with you, you have been extremely hostile towards me. Mark
Not at all Mark. Not personal, only I don't agree with your methods and your efforts to impose your opinions over others.
Why is the Andalusian test wiki deleated from Incubator? Why were you banned several times in different guises from several language wikis?
Definitely not personal, but maybe against some of your personae which to me seem to be very biased and slanted towards one opinion.
I ask that the issue of the deletion of the Andalusian Test wiki be looked into. My feeling is you had something to do with this as you've been warned before for vandalizing the efforts to establish a wiki in Andalusian.
Sincerely, Jay Bowks
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2006/9/8, Akash Mehta draicone@gmail.com:
You know, looking at the situation from a neutral perspective, I'd be suggesting a 1 month block for node ue for policy violations and personal attacks, but thats just my opinion.
I appreciate your opinion, Akash, and I agree it would be better to resolve differences this way.
But... stuff is getting deleted, and Marks behavior is unchanging. The last run in I had with him concerning Ladino was a bad ordeal for me. I don't wish to have to fight with Mark, I don't enjoy it at all. And I'm asking for community support and request that the deletion of the Andalusian Test wiki be resolved as a matter of good policy and fairness in NPOV standards.
With regards, Jay Bowks
I understand, and its fairly obvious that he's prejudiced against starting a Zazaki wiki, which is why I suggest a 1 month block from meta, if not 3mths - indef.
On 9/9/06, ilooy ilooy.gaon@gmail.com wrote:
2006/9/8, Akash Mehta draicone@gmail.com:
You know, looking at the situation from a neutral perspective, I'd be suggesting a 1 month block for node ue for policy violations and personal attacks, but thats just my opinion.
I appreciate your opinion, Akash, and I agree it would be better to resolve differences this way.
But... stuff is getting deleted, and Marks behavior is unchanging. The last run in I had with him concerning Ladino was a bad ordeal for me. I don't wish to have to fight with Mark, I don't enjoy it at all. And I'm asking for community support and request that the deletion of the Andalusian Test wiki be resolved as a matter of good policy and fairness in NPOV standards.
With regards, Jay Bowks
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I am not prejudiced against starting a Zazaki Wiki in particular. In case you didn't notice, User:Maviulke13 deleted many "oppose" votes from that page, and that is what I oppose. But apparently vote tampering is allowed, so I no longer really care. Let them have their Wiki, fraudulent vote or not. It's clear they will resort to whatever tactics necessary to get it, and it's not *that* big of a deal to me.
Mark
On 08/09/06, Akash Mehta draicone@gmail.com wrote:
I understand, and its fairly obvious that he's prejudiced against starting a Zazaki wiki, which is why I suggest a 1 month block from meta, if not 3mths - indef.
On 9/9/06, ilooy ilooy.gaon@gmail.com wrote:
2006/9/8, Akash Mehta draicone@gmail.com:
You know, looking at the situation from a neutral perspective, I'd be suggesting a 1 month block for node ue for policy violations and personal attacks, but thats just my opinion.
I appreciate your opinion, Akash, and I agree it would be better to resolve differences this way.
But... stuff is getting deleted, and Marks behavior is unchanging. The last run in I had with him concerning Ladino was a bad ordeal for me. I don't wish to have to fight with Mark, I don't enjoy it at all. And I'm asking for community support and request that the deletion of the Andalusian Test wiki be resolved as a matter of good policy and fairness in NPOV standards.
With regards, Jay Bowks
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On 08/09/06, ilooy ilooy.gaon@gmail.com wrote:
2006/9/8, Mark Williamson node.ue@gmail.com:
Psh, I haven't even been on Meta for a few weeks.
Mark, as you'll note if you re-read my posting there are others, and it is very obvious to me you have 'other' identities on Wikipedia. So maybe you haven't logged in as Node ue but it seems someone with your m.o. is at work.
My mo? Are you kidding me? Since I get off on trying to kill languages! Yee-haw!
Also, I have been accused of sockpuppetry many times before. If you're going to accuse me, request a sockcheck.
The fact is, Jay, you are for some reason biased against me. You hate me for no logical reason. In all my previous encounters with you, you have been extremely hostile towards me. Mark
Not at all Mark. Not personal, only I don't agree with your methods and your efforts to impose your opinions over others.
...right.
Why is the Andalusian test wiki deleated from Incubator? Why were you banned several times in different guises from several language wikis?
1) I don't know. Replace it, ask an admin to lock it. 2) Well, it varies from wiki to wiki. On yi.wp I was banned because danny doesn't like me. Currently, my reputation there is very good and people are constantly requesting that I return and that I edit more often, and at least one person said I should be admin and didn't know why Danny blocked me. His specific reason was that I was adding {{delete}} templates to pages, although none of them was even a sentence long, and adding a template isn't exactly vandalism. I don't recall being banned on any other wiki (except for en and meta) for a particularly long period of time that wasn't immediately lifted, with the exceptions of ks.wp and Toki Pona; at ks.wp a radical Hindu nationalist was trying to write the Wiki in Devanagari script, when anybody literate in the language uses Perso-Arabic, and he banned me for speaking out. Toki Pona was a long time ago, and you can find the arguments about that in the archives of wp-l.
Also, I am sysop at several Wikis, and my influence and/or help has been greatly welcomed or appreciated at several others, including but not limited to Sicilian, Friulian, Haitian Creole, and Yiddish. I have invited contributors to or created logos for many dozens of other Wikipedias.
Definitely not personal, but maybe against some of your personae which to me seem to be very biased and slanted towards one opinion.
I only have two accounts on en:, one on meta:, two on kl:, 4 or 5 on yi: (most to try to circumvent Danny's ban), and 3 on one other Wiki which is quite inactive right now.
I haven't even visited yi.wp in ages; I haven't used my second account on en.wp for nearly a year (and even then I believe it has less than 50 contribs).
I ask that the issue of the deletion of the Andalusian Test wiki be looked into. My feeling is you had something to do with this as you've been warned before for vandalizing the efforts to establish a wiki in Andalusian.
I never "vandalised" it. I simply didn't agree with your orthography, and as the case turns out to be, nobody else does either. Changing orthography to something a bit more kosher is not "vandalism".
Mark
2006/9/8, Mark Williamson node.ue@gmail.com:
Also, I have been accused of sockpuppetry many times before. [...] On yi.wp I was banned because danny doesn't like me. I don't recall being banned on any other wiki [...] he banned me for speaking out. Toki Pona was a long time ago, 4 or 5 on yi: (most to try to circumvent Danny's ban), and 3 on one other Wiki which is quite inactive right now. I never "vandalised" it. I simply didn't agree with your orthography, and as the case turns out to be, nobody else does either. Changing orthography to something a bit more kosher is not "vandalism".
But Mark look at the pattern above. Is that anyway to behave at Wikipedia?
And the Andalusian Test wiki didn't have my preference for a phonetic spelling, it used the '''NOA''' convention which is a bit standard in music lyrics etc. for flamenco songs, poems etc. So the one that was more NPOV got deleted. The Wikia Andalu site has received a lot of attacks from vandals. But If someone posts in another spelling convention it isn't reason to ban anyone, the problem is deletion of work. Since you mention 'kosher' I'll remind you of the deletions you made in the Ladino wiki, reverting the spelling to hebrew characters several times and deleting the romance spelling with Latin characters which is in fact preferred by several discussion lists in Ladino and newspapers and magazines in the Middle East and in other places around the world.
Do you not see that your pattern of behavior causes problems within the Wp community? This is what I meant by m.o. (modus operandi). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modus_operandi
Sincerely, Jay Bowks
Hi!
The Wikia Andalu site has received a lot of attacks from vandals.
I remember a LOT of flames about the very existence of an andalusian language (I was and am one of those supporting it, no matter the script they'll want to choose). Many of the more aggressive opponents on Meta really sounded much closer to a native castillan speaker than Mark will ever do. So possibly the vandals might have more than just one warrior in their tribe... if you will pardon my humour, it would also be quite funny to have vandals banned from their home country, that is, Vandalusia :)
Me and Mark are more often than not on different sides of the barricade, when dealing with small sized languages, but I'd be prudent in saying that he is responsible for all the problems on earth, from Eve's apple to yesterday's rain. If there are suspects about him playing socketpuppetry the correct way is to check whether such suspects have real foundations or not, and to make this BEFORE pointing one's finger and asking for anyone to be banned, jailed or executed. It's called Habeas Corpus. The other way bears Mr. Lynch's name.
Hmmm FMI, is "Jay B" even remotely related to a ro user called "Jacky B"? Just a curiosity of mine.
Bèrto
On 08/09/06, ilooy ilooy.gaon@gmail.com wrote:
2006/9/8, Mark Williamson node.ue@gmail.com:
Also, I have been accused of sockpuppetry many times before. [...] On yi.wp I was banned because danny doesn't like me. I don't recall being banned on any other wiki [...] he banned me for speaking out. Toki Pona was a long time ago, 4 or 5 on yi: (most to try to circumvent Danny's ban), and 3 on one other Wiki which is quite inactive right now. I never "vandalised" it. I simply didn't agree with your orthography, and as the case turns out to be, nobody else does either. Changing orthography to something a bit more kosher is not "vandalism".
But Mark look at the pattern above. Is that anyway to behave at Wikipedia?
Being accused? That's the behaviour of others, not me.
Being banned? Unless you mean permabanned, many well-respected users have been banned on one occasion or another (usually for something like violation of the 3RR), and there isn't nearly enough oversight on administrative action at small Wikis, so for example me being banned at yi.wp in its infancy was not subject to community approval because there was no community (but the one there now positively loves me).
Having sockpuppets? Almost everyone does. I admit it, so do I. But I don't have a whole lot,I never use them really, and I have never abused them.
And the Andalusian Test wiki didn't have my preference for a phonetic spelling, it used the '''NOA''' convention which is a bit standard in music lyrics etc. for flamenco songs, poems etc. So the one that was more NPOV got deleted. The Wikia Andalu site has received a lot of attacks from vandals. But If someone posts in another spelling convention it isn't reason to ban anyone, the problem is deletion of work. Since you mention 'kosher' I'll remind
Well, if that's what you're accusing me of, having a history of simply deleting the Andalusian Test-WP, then you are quite wrong. I have never once done that. I support the creation of an Andaluz Wikipedia, just not on YOUR terms -- you were not the original requester; there are many orthographies for the language, and you should not be allowed to unfairly dominate.
you of the deletions you made in the Ladino wiki, reverting the spelling to hebrew characters several times and deleting the romance spelling with Latin characters which is in fact preferred by several discussion lists in Ladino and newspapers and magazines in the Middle East and in other places around the world.
I don't seem to recall doing that -- on the LAdino Test-Wiki, I did, and you certainly *accused* me of doing it on lad.wiki. And on the Test-Wiki, it wasn't vandalism. You don't have sole creative control over anything, and when you think Latin letters should go first, or that they should even be included, that is subject to community consensus, and I was simply being bold.
Also, I wonder, what's the point of having a Ladino Wiki in latin characters? Sure, it's a bit different from Castellano, but it's basically the same as Nuevomejicano (New Mexican Spanish), with some Hebrew and Aramaic words here and there, and Nuevomejicano certainly doesn't deserve its own Wikipedia. Written in the Latin alphabet, LAdino hardly deserves its own Wikipedia -- it is really mostly identical to Castillian, as evidenced by the fact that many articles on lad.wp are simply copied and then converted to the "phonetic" orthography used by LAdino.
On the other hand, the Hebrew alphabet is the historical and still the most popular alphabet for writing Ladino, and a version in Hebrew letters would not be redundant.
Do you not see that your pattern of behavior causes problems within the Wp community? This is what I meant by m.o. (modus operandi). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modus_operandi
I'm not dumb, I know what m.o. means. However, I do not see a pattern of behaviour, and as far as I can tell, you have caused at least as many problems as I have, or more.
Mark
ilooy wrote:
Hey fellow wikipedians, The situation at the pages fro new language proposals is growing very hot and troublesome.
<insert request to fork back to intlwiki-l here>
Wait, there's yet another mailing list I should be signed up to? I already have a backlog of 200+ emails in my Gmail over the past two days, thanks mainly to wikipedia-l and wikien-l.
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ilooy wrote:
Hey fellow wikipedians, The situation at the pages fro new language proposals is growing very hot and troublesome.
<insert request to fork back to intlwiki-l here>
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