For the following writings, I am considering to ban 24 for 48 hours, starting Monday afternoon and going until Wednesday afternoon. This will be a warning, to be followed by our first-ever permanent ban if he doesn't behave.
Disagreements on meta.wikipedia.com, and about the content of articles, if restrained to the appropriate /talk page and appropriate normal struggle over the text of an article, are annoying but part of the process. Personal attacks, though, have no place in our community, particularly personal attacks which hint strongly at *physical* attacks.
Larry deserves the most profound and abusive forms of maltreatment imaginable, and not just here online, where he seems to live, but on the street. He is one of those "Stupid White Men" who thinks he can ignore the world to death, profiting from its demise.
Also, to Chuck Smith,
I don't consider you a person,
I base this decision in part on my research which leads me to believe that 24 is Craig Hubley, whose writings you may see here:
http://poetpiet.tripod.com/2001/CraigHubley2.htm http://poetpiet.tripod.com/2001/CraigHubley_greenethic_prntvrsn.htm http://poetpiet.tripod.com/2001/six-styles-of-capital.htm
I am open to alternative points of view, which is why I'm not taking the banning action right now, but instead waiting until more than 24 hours from now.
--Jimbo
For the following writings, I am considering to ban 24 for 48 hours, starting Monday afternoon and going until Wednesday afternoon. This will be a warning, to be followed by our first-ever permanent ban if he doesn't behave.
Disagreements on meta.wikipedia.com, and about the content of articles, if restrained to the appropriate /talk page and appropriate normal struggle over the text of an article, are annoying but part of the process. Personal attacks, though, have no place in our community, particularly personal attacks which hint strongly at *physical* attacks.
I agree.
I think that one thing to do that's important, especially if 24 is banned, even temporarily, is that his meta-commentary get restored to the main page of meta. I can't think of any justification for moving everything he wrote in meta off the main page.
Is there one? Because it seems like those writings are being singled out without any clear explication of policy.
The below is preaching to the choir, I suspect, but I think it's important that this point be reiterated: The most important thing to do in the application and enforcement of policy and norms (from edits all the way to IP banning) is that the reasons for those actions are clearly delineated, so that even if mistakes are made, it's clear what they were, and if mistakes weren't made, false claims can be refuted.
--tc cunctator@kband.com
Jimmy Wales wrote:
For the following writings, I am considering to ban 24 for 48 hours, starting Monday afternoon and going until Wednesday afternoon. This will be a warning, to be followed by our first-ever permanent ban if he doesn't behave.
I suggest the redirection of 24 to an exact wikipedia clone. 24 can have his own database. His database can be updated with changes from the real wikipedia and with 24's changes. The real database should ignore 24.
:)
Another interesting solution is to artificially slow down his connection by introduction of random delays to his IP number in the code.
Joao http://www.nonio.com
On dim, 2002-04-14 at 18:48, Joao Mário Miranda wrote:
Another interesting solution is to artificially slow down his connection by introduction of random delays to his IP number in the code.
Oh, we have that in place already! Unfortunately, we haven't figured out how to narrow it down to just him, so to be on the safe side it affects all users. :)
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
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