As someone who works on a regular basis with suicidal teenagers, I do think it is important that we have pages like that.

They may not be encyclopedic, they may not "belong" in Wikipedia, but in the interest of public safety, I think they are very important.

I think we need to be very careful though - we do not want to be telling people suicide is wrong, and we do not want to be explicitly telling people not to kill themselves for several reasons, not least of which that it would compromise our neutrality... of course, it could be argued that having such a page in the first place would compromise our neutrality, but I think there is very much a "right way" for us to do it, and a "wrong way". The "right way" is for us to give information that can help suicidal persons to find help. The "wrong way" is to write a page telling them why they should not kill themselves.

I do think it is important that such a page be written with the collaboration of a suicidologist, or at the very least someone with professional experience in the field.

Mark

On 26/04/07, sarble montegue pandiculation@gmail.com wrote:

The Transhumanist is/was working on a plan to overhaul the various "help" related pages. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:The_Transhumanist/Help_me_2 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Transhumanist/Help_me

I think he needs guidance on what exactly can/should be done, and how to do it, as many of those pages are skirting WP:NOT in various ways, or turning into very messy Dab. pages.

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