I read this story on Newsforge, the imminence of this (expected THIS fall) makes it really something. The material is of such a quality, the breath of their data, the pictures alone, this is really big news ! As the article says, openining up this content to the public, will make the British culture much more important.
The license they will use will be the Creative Commons license.
http://trends.newsforge.com/trends/04/09/14/0715249.shtml
Thanks, GerardM
On Sep 17, 2004, at 2:39 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
I read this story on Newsforge, the imminence of this (expected THIS fall) makes it really something. The material is of such a quality, the breath of their data, the pictures alone, this is really big news ! As the article says, openining up this content to the public, will make the British culture much more important.
The license they will use will be the Creative Commons license.
Which of the several Creative Commons licenses will be used? Many of them are very restrictive (eg noncommercial-noderivs). One thing I've found very unfortunate about the Creative Commons project is that their overarching name gets bandied about in public as though it referred to a particular license -- the opposite of what they intend, which is to be able to label things distinctly with human- and machine-readable license information.
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
Gerard Meijssen wrote:
I read this story on Newsforge, the imminence of this (expected THIS fall) makes it really something. The material is of such a quality, the breath of their data, the pictures alone, this is really big news ! As the article says, openining up this content to the public, will make the British culture much more important.
The license they will use will be the Creative Commons license.
They will use *a* Creative Commons licence - there are several.
The Newsforge story title is misleading, as this will not be open source; they will not be allowing commercial use of their material.
http://trends.newsforge.com/trends/04/09/14/0715249.shtml
Thanks, GerardM
On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 23:39:11 +0200, Gerard Meijssen gerardm@myrealbox.com wrote:
I read this story on Newsforge, the imminence of this (expected THIS fall) makes it really something. The material is of such a quality, the breath of their data, the pictures alone, this is really big news ! As the article says, openining up this content to the public, will make the British culture much more important.
Sorry to add more nit-picking, but "expected THIS fall" is a slight exaggeration on your part. The original announcement that they were going to spend the next few years working out how to put all their archives online was a few months ago; this is just a little "taster" of a couple of thousand clips, presumably to float some ideas, see if the public will get interested, etc. Not that that's not great in itself, just don't hold your breath for the whole "breadth of their data".
On the other hand, their embrace of Open Source is a welcome shift - things move slowly in the beeb, and their insistence on using Real streaming (yuck!) has irked a lot of people. They actually flirted rather casually with Ogg-base streams, but they were practically in secret, and I've never heard what it was exactly that was deemed a failure about them. (Perhaps nobody used them, since they only covered one program, and nobody knew they existed; that could be it ;).
Sorry, I think I may be rambling. Or maybe not, it's a while since I looked at this window. My eyes hurt. Good night!
The impression I got from talking to the BBC when Jimbo and I were there last month, and from the meeting I had with iCan this week, was that they are intending to release some of their content under a free CC licence, rather than one of the more restrictive non-commerical ones. They have also shown an interest in using Wikipedia content under the GFDL, although this isn't going to happen immediately since such things need to be checked with their lawyers first.
Related links: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedian_meetings_in_Europe/BBC%2C_August_2... http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/BBC_iCan
Angela.
In Linz, Austria at the Ars Electronica festival, elian and I chatted with the woman who is spearheading this initiative. They are interested in free licenses, but have certain difficulties within their organization in terms of needing assurance that it benefits the people they are legally obliged to benefit (UK taxpayers), and they have some concerns about their competitive position, I gather, thus the non-commercial restriction.
I view it as an amazing positive first step, and get the feeling from nearly everyone that Angela and I met at the BBC in London that they are spiritually all for it, it's just a matter of big organizations moving very slowly and cautiously.
--Jimbo
--- Gerard Meijssen gerardm@myrealbox.com wrote:
I read this story on Newsforge, the imminence of this (expected THIS fall) makes it really something. The material is of such a quality, the breath of their data, the pictures alone, this is really big news ! As the article says, openining up this content to the public, will make the British culture much more important.
The license they will use will be the Creative Commons license.
Hm. "... so long as it is not put to commercial use."
-- mav
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