User:147.72.93.172/147.72.93.199 has for some time been a troublesome presence on the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review article. He has made some valid points, but they are lost amid a torrent of claims of libel, legal threats, and general rudeness. Earlier today he removed a large amount of material from Talk:Pittsburgh Tribune-Review without archiving and replaced it with the words "Edited to allow more space." I reverted and asked him not to do it again on his user talk page. He blanked the entire page this time. I warned him against vandalism and reverted. Another blank, another warning. I blocked at the third blanking of the talk page.
He has long claimed nearly everything someone posts to the article or the talk page is libelous in some form or another. I am surprised to learn from the headers of the email David Gerard forwarded that apparently the anon is Carl Prine, an award winning PTR reporter. One would think a reporter wouldn't throw around accusations of libel so casually. In any case, much of the material is standard talk page arguing, and the material removed includes a lengthy polite attempt by User:KeithTyler to reason with Prine, something that I can't imagine any reasonable person objecting to.
- Gamaliel
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Rob wrote:
User:147.72.93.172/147.72.93.199 has for some time been a troublesome presence on the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review article. He has made some valid points, but they are lost amid a torrent of claims of libel, legal threats, and general rudeness. Earlier today he removed a large amount of material from Talk:Pittsburgh Tribune-Review without archiving and replaced it with the words "Edited to allow more space." I reverted and asked him not to do it again on his user talk page. He blanked the entire page this time. I warned him against vandalism and reverted. Another blank, another warning. I blocked at the third blanking of the talk page.
Being involved in a content dispute with 147.72.93.*, in my opinion you should not have blocked him but instead posted on Vandalism_in_progress and let there be no question of conflict of interest or misuse of privileges.
Rob (Gamaliel) wrote:
[...] has made some valid points, but they are lost amid a torrent of claims of libel, legal threats, and general rudeness. Earlier today he removed a large amount of material from [...]
I've seen this kind of intriguingly rude behaviour on several wikis, but not at all in another project of mine, where e-mail is the primary form of communication. Maybe the offender thinks he is talking to a machine, just like he would kick a soda vending machine or hit a television set that loses sync. Could we make wikis look more like a community of real people? How?
Lars Aronsson (lars@aronsson.se) [050419 21:33]:
Rob (Gamaliel) wrote:
[...] has made some valid points, but they are lost amid a torrent of claims of libel, legal threats, and general rudeness. Earlier today he removed a large amount of material from [...]
I've seen this kind of intriguingly rude behaviour on several wikis, but not at all in another project of mine, where e-mail is the primary form of communication. Maybe the offender thinks he is talking to a machine, just like he would kick a soda vending machine or hit a television set that loses sync. Could we make wikis look more like a community of real people? How?
I suspect this is the sort of person who thinks it's all ones and zeroes and if it's on the Internet it doesn't count as interaction with real people.
- d.
On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 10:41:18PM +1000, David Gerard wrote:
Lars Aronsson (lars@aronsson.se) [050419 21:33]:
Rob (Gamaliel) wrote:
[...] has made some valid points, but they are lost amid a torrent of claims of libel, legal threats, and general rudeness. Earlier today he removed a large amount of material from [...]
I've seen this kind of intriguingly rude behaviour on several wikis, but not at all in another project of mine, where e-mail is the primary form of communication. Maybe the offender thinks he is talking to a machine, just like he would kick a soda vending machine or hit a television set that loses sync. Could we make wikis look more like a community of real people? How?
I suspect this is the sort of person who thinks it's all ones and zeroes and if it's on the Internet it doesn't count as interaction with real people.
I'm not convinced such people would even realize there were real people on the other side of a face-to-face discussion -- at least, not any really meaningful manner.
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