Tim Starling wrote:
I thought option 2 might be controversial, but I guess
if no-one
understands it that would explain why no-one has commented on it yet.
Option 2 simply changes the first page to a redirect as if someone had
edited it normally. It does not move the edit history to the new location.
This would effectively allow someone to move a page to an occupied
location, without deleting it first to make way. I'm not sure if that's a
good idea or not.
Ah. That falls well under the heading of «things I would hesitate to use».
I'll see if other people that wanted to use option 3 comment on option 2 now.
>Q2: I don't really trust this idea yet and
would hesitate to use it --
> although I have no objection to other editors' having it available.
> But what I'd really like is an option that changes only redirects,
> to automatically avoid double redirects. Can we add that?
> Perhaps it should even be the default?
Okay, that can be done. Let me get this straight, is
this what you want:
* Double redirect exists from [[redir1]] to [[redir2]]
to [[content]]
* User navigates to [[redir2]] and clicks "move/redirect page" (probably a
better name for Special:Movepage with new functionality)
* User selects the option "No move, update redirects only"
* Software chages "#REDIRECT [[redir2]]" in [[redir1]] to "#REDIRECT
[[content]]"
This isn't what I was thinking of, but it's not a bad idea.
However, it seems completely separate from moving pages,
so it might fit better under a completely different special page.
Is that about right? Here's another scenario:
* [[redir1]] redirects to [[old content]]. User wants
to change the title
of [[old content]] to [[new content]].
* User navigates to [[old content]], clicks "move/redirect page", and
selects "Move, update redirects only".
* Software moves the page, and changes [[redir1] to "#REDIRECT [[new
content]]"
This is what I was thinking of. In fact, if this is regualarly used,
then the previous scenario would rarely be necessary in the future.
For a UI, something like:
(*) Move
( ) Change to redirect
[*] Update redirects to here
[ ] Update links from article namespace
[ ] Update links from other namespaces
OK. The second radio button is for your original option 2
(which may yet generate controversy and be removed from the idea).
I myself would probably only use the first radio button and first checkbox,
at least until I learn to trust the other options more.
(Note that we already have one checkbox on this page,
for moving the talk page.)
-- Toby