Hi Gerard,
I have just returned from my hometown. At hometown, I talked with couple of my colleagues and relatives for providing support for wikipedia Ahirani and their feedback was very good. Also I just saw that the language has been verified as eligible and I would like to say thanks to everyone for this. So feeling really cook and exciting. So, I will speed up my work and so lets face the next challenges.
Regards,
deepak
Home is behind The world ahead. And there are many paths to tread. Through shadow, To the edge of night Until the stars are all alight Mist and shadow Cloud and shade All shall fade All shall...fade.
From: gerard.meijssen@gmail.com Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 22:51:18 +0100 Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] [Wikimediaindia-l] Creation of new language - Ahirani To: deepak_sapkale@hotmail.com
Ho aIndeed. Please ask for support for your language at translatewiki.net on the [[Support]] page as well. Formally we suggest to the board that from a linguistic point of view there is / there is not a reason to approve a future project.
Thanks, Gerard
On 10 December 2011 18:38, deepak sapkale deepak_sapkale@hotmail.com wrote:
Hi Gerard,
I understood now..in summary what we have to do is..we have to write everything in support of the language on the request page (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Ahirani) and simultaneously on the other side, language committee with decide whether to approve it or not. am i right?
Regards,
deepak sapkale
Home is behind
The world ahead.
And there are many paths to tread.
Through shadow,
To the edge of night
Until the stars are all alight
Mist and shadow
Cloud and shade
All shall fade
All shall...fade.
From: gerard.meijssen@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 11:46:10 +0100
To: wikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] [Wikimediaindia-l] Creation of new language - Ahirani
Hoi,
Please read the instructions that come with the page. The bottom line is
that when we do not know a proposer or people working on an incubator
project, the language committee will not consider it for a long time and in
the end reject the proposal.
Thanks,
Gerard
On 8 December 2011 18:40, deepak sapkale deepak_sapkale@hotmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Thank you all for your support. I was little scared since last 3-4 days as
I hadn't heard from you guys. Gerard,...Could you please elaborate more on
your question " information of the "proposer""?? what Information I need to
add to the page?
Also regarding question of language support, Not a problem... I am
already in contact with my colleagues who are going to provide support for
it. Also I will be visiting my town in next week to knowledge them about
the project. Besides these let me know if anything is left to do from my
side.
Regards,
Deepak Sapkale
Home is behind
The world ahead.
And there are many paths to tread.
Through shadow,
To the edge of night
Until the stars are all alight
Mist and shadow
Cloud and shade
All shall fade
All shall...fade.
From: viswaprabha@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 15:37:10 +0530
Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikipedia-l] Creation of new language -
Ahirani
To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
CC: wikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org; deepak_sapkale@hotmail.com
Very encouraging!
Whole support for you, Ahirani!
Welcome to the world of Indic Wikipedias, you little dear!
:)
-Viswam
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 14:19, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com
wrote:
Hoi,It would be cool when the request for the Ahirani language is
completed. What is necessary is information of the "proposer" and people
interested in working on this language.
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Ahirani
In the mean time I have written a "Mingle story" asking for the support
for the Ahirani language. The request is to have a configuration exactly
like Marathi for WebFonts and Narayam. It will likely take three weeks
before this is implemented on the Incubator. Before this we will have it
implemented on translatewiki.net.
When it has been implemented at twn, we want to get confirmation that it
is as it needs to be. Having a "language support team" for Ahirani (and any
other language) really helps.
Thanks, Gerard
On 3 December 2011 06:38, deepak sapkale deepak_sapkale@hotmail.com
wrote:
Hi,
I am Deepak Sapkale, 27 year old software engineer, currently working at L
& T Infotech. I had attended Wiki Conference India 2011 and was really
inspired to create new language which is spoken in my native town. The
language is called "Ahirani" . The script of Ahirani is "Devanagari" which
used for Hindi and Marathi languages.
Please advise me, how can I proceed with this one.
Regards,
Deepak Sapkale
contact no, home: +91-022-21717690
mobile no: +91-9920997888
Home is behind
The world ahead.
And there are many paths to tread.
Through shadow,
To the edge of night
Until the stars are all alight
Mist and shadow
Cloud and shade
All shall fade
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Hi gerard,
Just wanted to you ask your feedback on my ahirani project. Ahirani incubator/ test project has been started and we are working hard towards building of page. This is the link to main page http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/ahr/Main_Page
please let me know whether i am on right track.
Regards, deepak sapkale
From: deepak_sapkale@hotmail.com To: gerard.meijssen@gmail.com; wikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 18:49:29 +0530 Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] [Wikimediaindia-l] Creation of new language - Ahirani
Hi Gerard,
I have just returned from my hometown. At hometown, I talked with couple of my colleagues and relatives for providing support for wikipedia Ahirani and their feedback was very good. Also I just saw that the language has been verified as eligible and I would like to say thanks to everyone for this. So feeling really cook and exciting. So, I will speed up my work and so lets face the next challenges.
Regards,
deepak
Home is behind The world ahead. And there are many paths to tread. Through shadow, To the edge of night Until the stars are all alight Mist and shadow Cloud and shade All shall fade All shall...fade.
From: gerard.meijssen@gmail.com Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 22:51:18 +0100 Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] [Wikimediaindia-l] Creation of new language - Ahirani To: deepak_sapkale@hotmail.com
Ho aIndeed. Please ask for support for your language at translatewiki.net on the [[Support]] page as well. Formally we suggest to the board that from a linguistic point of view there is / there is not a reason to approve a future project.
Thanks, Gerard
On 10 December 2011 18:38, deepak sapkale deepak_sapkale@hotmail.com wrote:
Hi Gerard,
I understood now..in summary what we have to do is..we have to write everything in support of the language on the request page (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Ahirani) and simultaneously on the other side, language committee with decide whether to approve it or not. am i right?
Regards,
deepak sapkale
Home is behind
The world ahead.
And there are many paths to tread.
Through shadow,
To the edge of night
Until the stars are all alight
Mist and shadow
Cloud and shade
All shall fade
All shall...fade.
From: gerard.meijssen@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 11:46:10 +0100
To: wikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] [Wikimediaindia-l] Creation of new language - Ahirani
Hoi,
Please read the instructions that come with the page. The bottom line is
that when we do not know a proposer or people working on an incubator
project, the language committee will not consider it for a long time and in
the end reject the proposal.
Thanks,
Gerard
On 8 December 2011 18:40, deepak sapkale deepak_sapkale@hotmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Thank you all for your support. I was little scared since last 3-4 days as
I hadn't heard from you guys. Gerard,...Could you please elaborate more on
your question " information of the "proposer""?? what Information I need to
add to the page?
Also regarding question of language support, Not a problem... I am
already in contact with my colleagues who are going to provide support for
it. Also I will be visiting my town in next week to knowledge them about
the project. Besides these let me know if anything is left to do from my
side.
Regards,
Deepak Sapkale
Home is behind
The world ahead.
And there are many paths to tread.
Through shadow,
To the edge of night
Until the stars are all alight
Mist and shadow
Cloud and shade
All shall fade
All shall...fade.
From: viswaprabha@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 15:37:10 +0530
Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikipedia-l] Creation of new language -
Ahirani
To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
CC: wikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org; deepak_sapkale@hotmail.com
Very encouraging!
Whole support for you, Ahirani!
Welcome to the world of Indic Wikipedias, you little dear!
:)
-Viswam
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 14:19, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com
wrote:
Hoi,It would be cool when the request for the Ahirani language is
completed. What is necessary is information of the "proposer" and people
interested in working on this language.
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Ahirani
In the mean time I have written a "Mingle story" asking for the support
for the Ahirani language. The request is to have a configuration exactly
like Marathi for WebFonts and Narayam. It will likely take three weeks
before this is implemented on the Incubator. Before this we will have it
implemented on translatewiki.net.
When it has been implemented at twn, we want to get confirmation that it
is as it needs to be. Having a "language support team" for Ahirani (and any
other language) really helps.
Thanks, Gerard
On 3 December 2011 06:38, deepak sapkale deepak_sapkale@hotmail.com
wrote:
Hi,
I am Deepak Sapkale, 27 year old software engineer, currently working at L
& T Infotech. I had attended Wiki Conference India 2011 and was really
inspired to create new language which is spoken in my native town. The
language is called "Ahirani" . The script of Ahirani is "Devanagari" which
used for Hindi and Marathi languages.
Please advise me, how can I proceed with this one.
Regards,
Deepak Sapkale
contact no, home: +91-022-21717690
mobile no: +91-9920997888
Home is behind
The world ahead.
And there are many paths to tread.
Through shadow,
To the edge of night
Until the stars are all alight
Mist and shadow
Cloud and shade
All shall fade
All shall...fade.
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Any good translator sites where we can translate the page for free? I'd give an opinion but don't read Ahirani. ;)
Bob
On 1/11/2012 12:27 PM, deepak sapkale wrote:
Hi gerard,
Just wanted to you ask your feedback on my ahirani project. Ahirani incubator/ test project has been started and we are working hard towards building of page. This is the link to main page http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/ahr/Main_Page
please let me know whether i am on right track.
Regards, deepak sapkale
From: deepak_sapkale@hotmail.com To: gerard.meijssen@gmail.com; wikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 18:49:29 +0530 Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] [Wikimediaindia-l] Creation of new language - Ahirani
Hi Gerard,
I have just returned from my hometown. At hometown, I talked with couple of my colleagues and relatives for providing support for wikipedia Ahirani and their feedback was very good. Also I just saw that the language has been verified as eligible and I would like to say thanks to everyone for this. So feeling really cook and exciting. So, I will speed up my work and so lets face the next challenges.
Regards,
deepak
Home is behind The world ahead. And there are many paths to tread. Through shadow, To the edge of night Until the stars are all alight Mist and shadow Cloud and shade All shall fade All shall...fade.
From: gerard.meijssen@gmail.com Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 22:51:18 +0100 Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] [Wikimediaindia-l] Creation of new language - Ahirani To: deepak_sapkale@hotmail.com
Ho aIndeed. Please ask for support for your language at translatewiki.net on the [[Support]] page as well. Formally we suggest to the board that from a linguistic point of view there is / there is not a reason to approve a future project.
Thanks, Gerard
On 10 December 2011 18:38, deepak sapkaledeepak_sapkale@hotmail.com wrote:
Hi Gerard,
I understood now..in summary what we have to do is..we have to write everything in support of the language on the request page (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Ahirani) and simultaneously on the other side, language committee with decide whether to approve it or not. am i right?
Regards,
deepak sapkale
Home is behind
The world ahead.
And there are many paths to tread.
Through shadow,
To the edge of night
Until the stars are all alight
Mist and shadow
Cloud and shade
All shall fade
All shall...fade.
From: gerard.meijssen@gmail.com Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 11:46:10 +0100 To: wikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] [Wikimediaindia-l] Creation of new language - Ahirani Hoi, Please read the instructions that come with the page. The bottom line is that when we do not know a proposer or people working on an incubator project, the language committee will not consider it for a long time and in the end reject the proposal. Thanks, Gerard On 8 December 2011 18:40, deepak sapkaledeepak_sapkale@hotmail.com wrote:
Hi, Thank you all for your support. I was little scared since last 3-4 days as I hadn't heard from you guys. Gerard,...Could you please elaborate more on your question " information of the "proposer""?? what Information I need to add to the page? Also regarding question of language support, Not a problem... I am already in contact with my colleagues who are going to provide support for it. Also I will be visiting my town in next week to knowledge them about the project. Besides these let me know if anything is left to do from my side. Regards, Deepak Sapkale Home is behind The world ahead. And there are many paths to tread. Through shadow, To the edge of night Until the stars are all alight Mist and shadow Cloud and shade All shall fade All shall...fade. From: viswaprabha@gmail.com Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 15:37:10 +0530 Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikipedia-l] Creation of new language - Ahirani To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org CC: wikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org; deepak_sapkale@hotmail.com Very encouraging! Whole support for you, Ahirani! Welcome to the world of Indic Wikipedias, you little dear! :) -Viswam On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 14:19, Gerard Meijssengerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote: Hoi,It would be cool when the request for the Ahirani language is completed. What is necessary is information of the "proposer" and people interested in working on this language. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Ahirani In the mean time I have written a "Mingle story" asking for the support for the Ahirani language. The request is to have a configuration exactly like Marathi for WebFonts and Narayam. It will likely take three weeks before this is implemented on the Incubator. Before this we will have it implemented on translatewiki.net. When it has been implemented at twn, we want to get confirmation that it is as it needs to be. Having a "language support team" for Ahirani (and any other language) really helps. http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Language_support_team Thanks, Gerard On 3 December 2011 06:38, deepak sapkaledeepak_sapkale@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, I am Deepak Sapkale, 27 year old software engineer, currently working at L & T Infotech. I had attended Wiki Conference India 2011 and was really inspired to create new language which is spoken in my native town. The language is called "Ahirani" . The script of Ahirani is "Devanagari" which used for Hindi and Marathi languages. Please advise me, how can I proceed with this one. Regards, Deepak Sapkale contact no, home: +91-022-21717690 mobile no: +91-9920997888 Home is behind The world ahead. And there are many paths to tread. Through shadow, To the edge of night Until the stars are all alight Mist and shadow Cloud and shade All shall fade All shall...fade. _______________________________________________ Wikipedia-l mailing list Wikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l _______________________________________________ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l _______________________________________________ Wikipedia-l mailing list Wikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l
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Hoi, At the Incubator the notion of using translations produced by other people then the ones who are incubating the project is seriously not welcome. At the Incubator we must see people involved in the language itself. Anything else defeats the purpose of the Incubator and the language policies. When there is doubt to the actual size and proficiency of the people involved it is reason to not allow the language to go to the next level.
Remember, the language policy was created in order to prevent the many dead projects we still have. The growing number of dead projects almost put a stop to the creation of any new language projects. It is important to realise that the policy ensures the vitality of new projects. Translations from outside the WMF are not welcome at the Incubator. Thanks, Gerard
On 11 January 2012 20:44, Bob the Wikipedian bobthewikipedian@gmail.comwrote:
Any good translator sites where we can translate the page for free? I'd give an opinion but don't read Ahirani. ;)
Bob
On 1/11/2012 12:27 PM, deepak sapkale wrote:
Hi gerard,
Just wanted to you ask your feedback on my ahirani project. Ahirani
incubator/ test project has been started and we are working hard towards building of page. This is the link to main page http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/ahr/Main_Page
please let me know whether i am on right track.
Regards, deepak sapkale
From: deepak_sapkale@hotmail.com To: gerard.meijssen@gmail.com; wikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 18:49:29 +0530 Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] [Wikimediaindia-l] Creation of new language
- Ahirani
Hi Gerard,
I have just returned from my hometown. At hometown, I talked with
couple of my colleagues and relatives for providing support for wikipedia Ahirani and their feedback was very good. Also I just saw that the language has been verified as eligible and I would like to say thanks to everyone for this. So feeling really cook and exciting. So, I will speed up my work and so lets face the next challenges.
Regards,
deepak
Home is behind The world ahead. And there are many paths to tread. Through shadow, To the edge of night Until the stars are all alight Mist and shadow Cloud and shade All shall fade All shall...fade.
From: gerard.meijssen@gmail.com Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 22:51:18 +0100 Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] [Wikimediaindia-l] Creation of new language
- Ahirani
To: deepak_sapkale@hotmail.com
Ho aIndeed. Please ask for support for your language at
translatewiki.net on the [[Support]] page as well. Formally we suggest to the board that from a linguistic point of view there is / there is not a reason to approve a future project.
Thanks, Gerard
On 10 December 2011 18:38, deepak sapkaledeepak_sapkale@hotmail.com
wrote:
Hi Gerard,
I understood now..in summary what we have to do is..we have to write
everything in support of the language on the request page ( http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Ahirani) and simultaneously on the other side, language committee with decide whether to approve it or not. am i right?
Regards,
deepak sapkale
Home is behind
The world ahead.
And there are many paths to tread.
Through shadow,
To the edge of night
Until the stars are all alight
Mist and shadow
Cloud and shade
All shall fade
All shall...fade.
From: gerard.meijssen@gmail.com Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 11:46:10 +0100 To: wikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] [Wikimediaindia-l] Creation of new language
Ahirani
Hoi, Please read the instructions that come with the page. The bottom line
is
that when we do not know a proposer or people working on an incubator project, the language committee will not consider it for a long time
and in
the end reject the proposal. Thanks, Gerard On 8 December 2011 18:40, deepak sapkaledeepak_sapkale@hotmail.com
wrote:
Hi, Thank you all for your support. I was little scared since last 3-4
days as
I hadn't heard from you guys. Gerard,...Could you please elaborate
more on
your question " information of the "proposer""?? what Information I
need to
add to the page? Also regarding question of language support, Not a problem... I am already in contact with my colleagues who are going to provide
support for
it. Also I will be visiting my town in next week to knowledge them
about
the project. Besides these let me know if anything is left to do from
my
side. Regards, Deepak Sapkale Home is behind The world ahead. And there are many paths to tread. Through shadow, To the edge of night Until the stars are all alight Mist and shadow Cloud and shade All shall fade All shall...fade. From: viswaprabha@gmail.com Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 15:37:10 +0530 Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikipedia-l] Creation of new
language -
Ahirani To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org CC: wikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org; deepak_sapkale@hotmail.com Very encouraging! Whole support for you, Ahirani! Welcome to the world of Indic Wikipedias, you little dear! :) -Viswam On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 14:19, Gerard Meijssen<
gerard.meijssen@gmail.com>
wrote: Hoi,It would be cool when the request for the Ahirani language is completed. What is necessary is information of the "proposer" and
people
interested in working on this language.
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Ahirani
In the mean time I have written a "Mingle story" asking for the
support
for the Ahirani language. The request is to have a configuration
exactly
like Marathi for WebFonts and Narayam. It will likely take three weeks before this is implemented on the Incubator. Before this we will have
it
implemented on translatewiki.net. When it has been implemented at twn, we want to get confirmation that
it
is as it needs to be. Having a "language support team" for Ahirani
(and any
other language) really helps. http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Language_support_team Thanks, Gerard On 3 December 2011 06:38, deepak sapkaledeepak_sapkale@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, I am Deepak Sapkale, 27 year old software engineer, currently working
at L
& T Infotech. I had attended Wiki Conference India 2011 and was
really
inspired to create new language which is spoken in my native town. The language is called "Ahirani" . The script of Ahirani is "Devanagari"
which
used for Hindi and Marathi languages. Please advise me, how can I proceed with this one. Regards, Deepak Sapkale contact no, home: +91-022-21717690 mobile no: +91-9920997888 Home is behind The world ahead. And there are many paths to tread. Through shadow, To the edge of night Until the stars are all alight Mist and shadow Cloud and shade All shall fade All shall...fade. _______________________________________________ Wikipedia-l mailing list Wikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l _______________________________________________ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l _______________________________________________ Wikipedia-l mailing list Wikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l
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On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Hoi, At the Incubator the notion of using translations produced by other people then the ones who are incubating the project is seriously not welcome. At the Incubator we must see people involved in the language itself. Anything else defeats the purpose of the Incubator and the language policies. When there is doubt to the actual size and proficiency of the people involved it is reason to not allow the language to go to the next level.
I think Bob was looking for something to translate the Ahirani pages into English, so that he could read them and give some feedback about the quality of those pages. Cruccone
Hi Gerard,
I think, bob is trying to ask about translation of ahirani text written on ahirani incubator main page, so that he can provide me the feedback. but I appreciate your concern and really thank for the point you mentioned there.
Hi Bob,
Just to explain you about the meaning of text. I have just written some information about ahirani language like where it is spoken, how many speakers are there etc. Also at the bottom if you see, there are two image icons which are going to be linked to articles written in ahirani languages on history, geography, science, maths etc. So all the pages links would go from there. soon I will be creating a section of news on right side where we will update about daily world news, information, happenings..
Regards,
Deepak Sapkale
From: gerard.meijssen@gmail.com Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 09:41:33 +0100 To: wikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] [Wikimediaindia-l] Creation of new language - Ahirani
Hoi, At the Incubator the notion of using translations produced by other people then the ones who are incubating the project is seriously not welcome. At the Incubator we must see people involved in the language itself. Anything else defeats the purpose of the Incubator and the language policies. When there is doubt to the actual size and proficiency of the people involved it is reason to not allow the language to go to the next level.
Remember, the language policy was created in order to prevent the many dead projects we still have. The growing number of dead projects almost put a stop to the creation of any new language projects. It is important to realise that the policy ensures the vitality of new projects. Translations from outside the WMF are not welcome at the Incubator. Thanks, Gerard
On 11 January 2012 20:44, Bob the Wikipedian bobthewikipedian@gmail.comwrote:
Any good translator sites where we can translate the page for free? I'd give an opinion but don't read Ahirani. ;)
Bob
On 1/11/2012 12:27 PM, deepak sapkale wrote:
Hi gerard,
Just wanted to you ask your feedback on my ahirani project. Ahirani
incubator/ test project has been started and we are working hard towards building of page. This is the link to main page http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/ahr/Main_Page
please let me know whether i am on right track.
Regards, deepak sapkale
From: deepak_sapkale@hotmail.com To: gerard.meijssen@gmail.com; wikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 18:49:29 +0530 Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] [Wikimediaindia-l] Creation of new language
- Ahirani
Hi Gerard,
I have just returned from my hometown. At hometown, I talked with
couple of my colleagues and relatives for providing support for wikipedia Ahirani and their feedback was very good. Also I just saw that the language has been verified as eligible and I would like to say thanks to everyone for this. So feeling really cook and exciting. So, I will speed up my work and so lets face the next challenges.
Regards,
deepak
Home is behind The world ahead. And there are many paths to tread. Through shadow, To the edge of night Until the stars are all alight Mist and shadow Cloud and shade All shall fade All shall...fade.
From: gerard.meijssen@gmail.com Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 22:51:18 +0100 Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] [Wikimediaindia-l] Creation of new language
- Ahirani
To: deepak_sapkale@hotmail.com
Ho aIndeed. Please ask for support for your language at
translatewiki.net on the [[Support]] page as well. Formally we suggest to the board that from a linguistic point of view there is / there is not a reason to approve a future project.
Thanks, Gerard
On 10 December 2011 18:38, deepak sapkaledeepak_sapkale@hotmail.com
wrote:
Hi Gerard,
I understood now..in summary what we have to do is..we have to write
everything in support of the language on the request page ( http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Ahirani) and simultaneously on the other side, language committee with decide whether to approve it or not. am i right?
Regards,
deepak sapkale
Home is behind
The world ahead.
And there are many paths to tread.
Through shadow,
To the edge of night
Until the stars are all alight
Mist and shadow
Cloud and shade
All shall fade
All shall...fade.
From: gerard.meijssen@gmail.com Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 11:46:10 +0100 To: wikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] [Wikimediaindia-l] Creation of new language
Ahirani
Hoi, Please read the instructions that come with the page. The bottom line
is
that when we do not know a proposer or people working on an incubator project, the language committee will not consider it for a long time
and in
the end reject the proposal. Thanks, Gerard On 8 December 2011 18:40, deepak sapkaledeepak_sapkale@hotmail.com
wrote:
Hi, Thank you all for your support. I was little scared since last 3-4
days as
I hadn't heard from you guys. Gerard,...Could you please elaborate
more on
your question " information of the "proposer""?? what Information I
need to
add to the page? Also regarding question of language support, Not a problem... I am already in contact with my colleagues who are going to provide
support for
it. Also I will be visiting my town in next week to knowledge them
about
the project. Besides these let me know if anything is left to do from
my
side. Regards, Deepak Sapkale Home is behind The world ahead. And there are many paths to tread. Through shadow, To the edge of night Until the stars are all alight Mist and shadow Cloud and shade All shall fade All shall...fade. From: viswaprabha@gmail.com Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 15:37:10 +0530 Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikipedia-l] Creation of new
language -
Ahirani To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org CC: wikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org; deepak_sapkale@hotmail.com Very encouraging! Whole support for you, Ahirani! Welcome to the world of Indic Wikipedias, you little dear! :) -Viswam On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 14:19, Gerard Meijssen<
gerard.meijssen@gmail.com>
wrote: Hoi,It would be cool when the request for the Ahirani language is completed. What is necessary is information of the "proposer" and
people
interested in working on this language.
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Ahirani
In the mean time I have written a "Mingle story" asking for the
support
for the Ahirani language. The request is to have a configuration
exactly
like Marathi for WebFonts and Narayam. It will likely take three weeks before this is implemented on the Incubator. Before this we will have
it
implemented on translatewiki.net. When it has been implemented at twn, we want to get confirmation that
it
is as it needs to be. Having a "language support team" for Ahirani
(and any
other language) really helps. http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Language_support_team Thanks, Gerard On 3 December 2011 06:38, deepak sapkaledeepak_sapkale@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, I am Deepak Sapkale, 27 year old software engineer, currently working
at L
& T Infotech. I had attended Wiki Conference India 2011 and was
really
inspired to create new language which is spoken in my native town. The language is called "Ahirani" . The script of Ahirani is "Devanagari"
which
used for Hindi and Marathi languages. Please advise me, how can I proceed with this one. Regards, Deepak Sapkale contact no, home: +91-022-21717690 mobile no: +91-9920997888 Home is behind The world ahead. And there are many paths to tread. Through shadow, To the edge of night Until the stars are all alight Mist and shadow Cloud and shade All shall fade All shall...fade. _______________________________________________ Wikipedia-l mailing list Wikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l _______________________________________________ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l _______________________________________________ Wikipedia-l mailing list Wikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l
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Mr. Sapkale,
Sounds appropriate, with it being a language that isn't well-covered online. Be sure and include some Wikipedia-related stuff, too; we want the Ahirani writers and readers to understand this is the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit. Ideally, the main page ought to provide enough material on it to get someone at least interested in editing and provide links to learn how to do this.
Also-- I'm sure you know this, but in case it was an oversight-- the map ought to use the same language as the wiki. You can probably find some good image editors over at the graphic design WikiProject on the English Wikipedia; they can do some pretty amazing work if you tell them exactly what to do.
Hope that helps, Bob
On 1/12/2012 10:16 AM, deepak sapkale wrote:
Hi Bob,
Just to explain you about the meaning of text. I have just written some information about ahirani language like where it is spoken, how many speakers are there etc. Also at the bottom if you see, there are two image icons which are going to be linked to articles written in ahirani languages on history, geography, science, maths etc. So all the pages links would go from there. soon I will be creating a section of news on right side where we will update about daily world news, information, happenings..
Regards,
Deepak Sapkale
From: gerard.meijssen@gmail.com Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 09:41:33 +0100 To: wikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] [Wikimediaindia-l] Creation of new language - Ahirani
Hoi, At the Incubator the notion of using translations produced by other people then the ones who are incubating the project is seriously not welcome. At the Incubator we must see people involved in the language itself. Anything else defeats the purpose of the Incubator and the language policies. When there is doubt to the actual size and proficiency of the people involved it is reason to not allow the language to go to the next level.
Remember, the language policy was created in order to prevent the many dead projects we still have. The growing number of dead projects almost put a stop to the creation of any new language projects. It is important to realise that the policy ensures the vitality of new projects. Translations from outside the WMF are not welcome at the Incubator. Thanks, Gerard
On 11 January 2012 20:44, Bob the Wikipedianbobthewikipedian@gmail.comwrote:
Any good translator sites where we can translate the page for free? I'd give an opinion but don't read Ahirani. ;)
Bob
On 1/11/2012 12:27 PM, deepak sapkale wrote:
Hi gerard,
Just wanted to you ask your feedback on my ahirani project. Ahirani
incubator/ test project has been started and we are working hard towards building of page. This is the link to main page http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/ahr/Main_Page
please let me know whether i am on right track.
Regards, deepak sapkale
From: deepak_sapkale@hotmail.com To: gerard.meijssen@gmail.com; wikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 18:49:29 +0530 Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] [Wikimediaindia-l] Creation of new language
- Ahirani
Hi Gerard,
I have just returned from my hometown. At hometown, I talked with
couple of my colleagues and relatives for providing support for wikipedia Ahirani and their feedback was very good. Also I just saw that the language has been verified as eligible and I would like to say thanks to everyone for this. So feeling really cook and exciting. So, I will speed up my work and so lets face the next challenges.
Regards,
deepak
Home is behind The world ahead. And there are many paths to tread. Through shadow, To the edge of night Until the stars are all alight Mist and shadow Cloud and shade All shall fade All shall...fade.
From: gerard.meijssen@gmail.com Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 22:51:18 +0100 Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] [Wikimediaindia-l] Creation of new language
- Ahirani
To: deepak_sapkale@hotmail.com
Ho aIndeed. Please ask for support for your language at
translatewiki.net on the [[Support]] page as well. Formally we suggest to the board that from a linguistic point of view there is / there is not a reason to approve a future project.
Thanks, Gerard
On 10 December 2011 18:38, deepak sapkaledeepak_sapkale@hotmail.com
wrote:
Hi Gerard,
I understood now..in summary what we have to do is..we have to write
everything in support of the language on the request page ( http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Ahirani) and simultaneously on the other side, language committee with decide whether to approve it or not. am i right?
Regards,
deepak sapkale
Home is behind
The world ahead.
And there are many paths to tread.
Through shadow,
To the edge of night
Until the stars are all alight
Mist and shadow
Cloud and shade
All shall fade
All shall...fade.
From: gerard.meijssen@gmail.com Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 11:46:10 +0100 To: wikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] [Wikimediaindia-l] Creation of new language
Ahirani
Hoi, Please read the instructions that come with the page. The bottom line
is
that when we do not know a proposer or people working on an incubator project, the language committee will not consider it for a long time
and in
the end reject the proposal. Thanks, Gerard On 8 December 2011 18:40, deepak sapkaledeepak_sapkale@hotmail.com
wrote:
> Hi, > Thank you all for your support. I was little scared since last 3-4
days as
> I hadn't heard from you guys. Gerard,...Could you please elaborate
more on
> your question " information of the "proposer""?? what Information I
need to
> add to the page? > Also regarding question of language support, Not a problem... I am > already in contact with my colleagues who are going to provide
support for
> it. Also I will be visiting my town in next week to knowledge them
about
> the project. Besides these let me know if anything is left to do from
my
> side. > Regards, > Deepak Sapkale > Home is behind > The world ahead. > And there are many paths to tread. > Through shadow, > To the edge of night > Until the stars are all alight > Mist and shadow > Cloud and shade > All shall fade > All shall...fade. > From: viswaprabha@gmail.com > Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 15:37:10 +0530 > Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikipedia-l] Creation of new
language -
> Ahirani > To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > CC: wikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org; deepak_sapkale@hotmail.com > Very encouraging! > Whole support for you, Ahirani! > Welcome to the world of Indic Wikipedias, you little dear! > :) > -Viswam > On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 14:19, Gerard Meijssen<
gerard.meijssen@gmail.com>
> wrote: > Hoi,It would be cool when the request for the Ahirani language is > completed. What is necessary is information of the "proposer" and
people
> interested in working on this language. >
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Ahirani
> In the mean time I have written a "Mingle story" asking for the
support
> for the Ahirani language. The request is to have a configuration
exactly
> like Marathi for WebFonts and Narayam. It will likely take three weeks > before this is implemented on the Incubator. Before this we will have
it
> implemented on translatewiki.net. > When it has been implemented at twn, we want to get confirmation that
it
> is as it needs to be. Having a "language support team" for Ahirani
(and any
> other language) really helps. > http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Language_support_team > Thanks, Gerard > On 3 December 2011 06:38, deepak sapkaledeepak_sapkale@hotmail.com > wrote: > Hi, > I am Deepak Sapkale, 27 year old software engineer, currently working
at L
> & T Infotech. I had attended Wiki Conference India 2011 and was
really
> inspired to create new language which is spoken in my native town. The > language is called "Ahirani" . The script of Ahirani is "Devanagari"
which
> used for Hindi and Marathi languages. > Please advise me, how can I proceed with this one. > Regards, > Deepak Sapkale > contact no, home: +91-022-21717690 > mobile no: +91-9920997888 > Home is behind > The world ahead. > And there are many paths to tread. > Through shadow, > To the edge of night > Until the stars are all alight > Mist and shadow > Cloud and shade > All shall fade > All shall...fade. > _______________________________________________ > Wikipedia-l mailing list > Wikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > _______________________________________________ > Wikipedia-l mailing list > Wikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l _______________________________________________ Wikipedia-l mailing list Wikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l
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