On mar, 2002-04-02 at 10:08, Jimmy Wales wrote:
Is the history of ip blocks made public somewhere? I should know,
but I don't. :-(
[[wikipedia:Blocked IPs]]
However the log's a bit buggy (pretty UNIX timestamps instead of
dates!)
The IP ban function needs some interface work as well; there should
be a
confirm-and-explain step, and perhaps an obvious way to unblock,
should
it ever be necessary.
BTW, the three different 62.98... pages that were blocked by me, KQ, and Brian all resolve to "dns.wind.it", which appears to be an Italian ISP. So it is likely that they are from a dynamic IP pool, and that they are all the same vandal (who, oddly, has made some real contributions as well as obvious vandalism). The dynamic-ip issue is a tricky one; blocks should probably expire quickly to avoid accidentally blocking legit users, and there's no way, even in principle, to block a "user".
Likewise, the "you've been blocked" page should have a lengthy explanation that accounts for the accidental case. 0
lcrocker@nupedia.com wrote:
Likewise, the "you've been blocked" page should have a lengthy explanation that accounts for the accidental case.
I think I agree with you, but I also wonder if it wouldn't be better to simply make the block silent. The troll can edit, and save, but the save doesn't "take". The idea is hopefully to let them think that our site is broken or something, rather than letting them feel the victory of pulling us into a "fight", a fight which they can win by escalating ways of getting around our filters, which are of course always going to be relatively ineffective.
Of course, if you ask me, the whole of wikipedia is impossible. :-) No one could possibly put up a well-advertised and open site that anyone can edit without it quickly degenerating into a battleground for trolls and counter-trolls. It's impossible.
Except, it obviously isn't, since it's working great. :-)
--Jimbo
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