We have been using templates for various management tasks for quite some time now. Cleanup, wikifikation, deletion, all done through templates and, sometimes, categories.
While some of these work out OK, AfD seems to be a mess, and Articles for Creation (for anons on en.wikipedia) seems to be heading that way. Handling of these task-tags requires editing of pages, making the page history grow and generally being a pain (what was that template name? did it have parameters?).
I hereby suggest a mechanism for "request management". Each article would have a "Request" (or "task") tab, and there would be a Special:Requests page. Through these, requests of all kind could be handeled (added, listed, removed). Each request would get its own "Request:" page for discussion.
A request would consist of: * Article name (automatically filled in) * Request type (chosen from a list) * Comment/reason/explanation text * Status (from a list, similar to bugzilla; "open", "solved", "wontfix") * Other automatically filled-in information (who requested it, time of request)
Requests would be shown in the sidebar of the page (like "Requests: cleanup, wikify"). Details would be shown of the Special:Request page *for that article*. All requests, sorted and filtered, would be shown on Special:Request (*not* for a specific page).
Optionally, a filter could be applied for the categories an article is in. This would allow me too see all articles in "Biochemitry" that need a cleanup, for example.
Quick, tell me what you think, while I'm in a coding mood ;-)
Magnus
On 12/8/05, Magnus Manske magnus.manske@web.de wrote:
Quick, tell me what you think, while I'm in a coding mood ;-)
Magnus
Ooooh, I like this idea. Easier to do and to explain to others.
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Magnus Manske wrote:
I hereby suggest a mechanism for "request management". Each article would have a "Request" (or "task") tab, and there would be a Special:Requests page. Through these, requests of all kind could be handeled (added, listed, removed). Each request would get its own "Request:" page for discussion.
A request would consist of:
- Article name (automatically filled in)
- Request type (chosen from a list)
- Comment/reason/explanation text
- Status (from a list, similar to bugzilla; "open", "solved", "wontfix")
- Other automatically filled-in information (who requested it, time of
request)
Requests would be shown in the sidebar of the page (like "Requests: cleanup, wikify"). Details would be shown of the Special:Request page *for that article*. All requests, sorted and filtered, would be shown on Special:Request (*not* for a specific page).
Optionally, a filter could be applied for the categories an article is in. This would allow me too see all articles in "Biochemitry" that need a cleanup, for example.
Quick, tell me what you think, while I'm in a coding mood ;-)
Magnus
That's a great idea: Wikipedia workflow!
-- Neil
--- Neil Harris usenet@tonal.clara.co.uk wrote:
Magnus Manske wrote:
I hereby suggest a mechanism for "request management". Each article would have a "Request" (or "task") tab, and there would be a Special:Requests page. Through these, requests of all kind could be handeled (added, listed, removed). Each request would get its own "Request:" page for discussion.
A request would consist of:
- Article name (automatically filled in)
- Request type (chosen from a list)
- Comment/reason/explanation text
- Status (from a list, similar to bugzilla; "open", "solved", "wontfix")
- Other automatically filled-in information (who requested it, time of
request)
Requests would be shown in the sidebar of the page (like "Requests: cleanup, wikify"). Details would be shown of the Special:Request page *for that article*. All requests, sorted and filtered, would be shown on Special:Request (*not* for a specific page).
Optionally, a filter could be applied for the categories an article is in. This would allow me too see all articles in "Biochemitry" that need a cleanup, for example.
Quick, tell me what you think, while I'm in a coding mood ;-)
Magnus
That's a great idea: Wikipedia workflow!
So long as readers can very easily see the workflow status of the article w/o having to access a tab, then Im all for it. In other words ; this system should look the same as what we do now. The only difference would be added software support to make things easier for editors.
-- mav
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Daniel Mayer wrote:
--- Neil Harris usenet@tonal.clara.co.uk wrote:
Magnus Manske wrote:
Quick, tell me what you think, while I'm in a coding mood ;-)
Magnus
That's a great idea: Wikipedia workflow!
So long as readers can very easily see the workflow status of the article w/o having to access a tab, then I’m all for it. In other words ; this system should look the same as what we do now. The only difference would be added software support to make things easier for editors.
Currently, they can see "this article needs cleanup" (or the like). I though along the lines of a sidebar note; maybe a little less prominent than the current style.
Magnus
On 08/12/05, Magnus Manske magnus.manske@web.de wrote:
Currently, they can see "this article needs cleanup" (or the like). I though along the lines of a sidebar note; maybe a little less prominent than the current style.
Well, some things need a more prominent notice than others - e.g. a page listed for deletion needs to really draw attention to that fact. Obviously, this could still be done manually with templates, but it would be nice if the software would do it for you (it would also keep "meta" info out of the article source, though it could stay in the history as null revisions, like page moves do).
Perhaps a notice displayed at the top of the page, configurable as a wikitext-rich MediaWiki page per request type. That way "needs cleanup" could just be a little italic note, and "may be deleted shortly" could be a large red box with lots of exclamation marks.
-- Rowan Collins BSc [IMSoP]
Rowan Collins wrote:
On 08/12/05, Magnus Manske magnus.manske@web.de wrote:
Currently, they can see "this article needs cleanup" (or the like). I though along the lines of a sidebar note; maybe a little less prominent than the current style.
Well, some things need a more prominent notice than others - e.g. a page listed for deletion needs to really draw attention to that fact. Obviously, this could still be done manually with templates, but it would be nice if the software would do it for you (it would also keep "meta" info out of the article source, though it could stay in the history as null revisions, like page moves do).
Perhaps a notice displayed at the top of the page, configurable as a wikitext-rich MediaWiki page per request type. That way "needs cleanup" could just be a little italic note, and "may be deleted shortly" could be a large red box with lots of exclamation marks.
The 'how' is just a matter of taste; I'd suggest having all these notes in one place at the sidebar, but for essential ones like "deletion", we could change the page background slightly into yellowish or red (yes, so that color-blind users can see something's different as well).
I'll announce it when the feature is advanced enough to work on these things :-)
Magnus
On 12/8/05, Magnus Manske magnus.manske@web.de wrote:
We have been using templates for various management tasks for quite some time now. Cleanup, wikifikation, deletion, all done through templates and, sometimes, categories.
While some of these work out OK, AfD seems to be a mess, and Articles for Creation (for anons on en.wikipedia) seems to be heading that way. Handling of these task-tags requires editing of pages, making the page history grow and generally being a pain (what was that template name? did it have parameters?).
I hereby suggest a mechanism for "request management". Each article would have a "Request" (or "task") tab, and there would be a Special:Requests page. Through these, requests of all kind could be handeled (added, listed, removed). Each request would get its own "Request:" page for discussion.
A request would consist of:
- Article name (automatically filled in)
- Request type (chosen from a list)
- Comment/reason/explanation text
- Status (from a list, similar to bugzilla; "open", "solved", "wontfix")
- Other automatically filled-in information (who requested it, time of
request)
Requests would be shown in the sidebar of the page (like "Requests: cleanup, wikify"). Details would be shown of the Special:Request page *for that article*. All requests, sorted and filtered, would be shown on Special:Request (*not* for a specific page).
Optionally, a filter could be applied for the categories an article is in. This would allow me too see all articles in "Biochemitry" that need a cleanup, for example.
Quick, tell me what you think, while I'm in a coding mood ;-)
Magnus
I've wanted something like this for ages. There's no way our current management approach will scale much further; it's too hard to keep track of what's on what action queue.
Please provide a means to display each action queue in the order in which they were added to that queue so that we can prioritize.
Kelly
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