Toby Bartels wrote:

While I think that your fears are unjustified, Cunc, at the same time I feel that I know where you're coming from. Lee has said that he doesn't value humility, and it shows; but this is his personality type, and I don't think that he intends to be a tyrant (which I hope that you agree with).

This is one reason that I was trying to get a discussion forum for bugs and features that more people would see than this list. When Lee closes a request because he doesn't want to implement it, it looks dictatorial and arbitrary to me, and *I* know better -- imagine what it must look like to a random user that doesn't! But this is a problem of perception, because Lee *does* bow to popular opinion -- and solicit it, as he did this time.

At the root of most debates about dictatorship, cabals, etc. there is this problem of perception. The perception of a dictatorship can often linger even when the reality of dictatorship is completely absent. A lack of humility doesn't help the problems. Things do need to get done, even if or as (regrettably) meaningful conversations fade off into some non-productive never-never land. In a "tech" context a person with a "dumb" problem wants to feel that he has been heard and considered. He doesn't want to be silently ignored, but he doesn't expect that there will always be a solution to all of the problems that he raises. Eclecticology

My opinion on the discussion thing, BTW, is that the best thing to do might well be to put a link to [[Wikpedia-L]] on [[Bug reports]], with instructions that while SourceForge is for ''reporting'', ''discussion'' of bugs and features takes place on the list. Does anybody object to my adding that?

No objection