Salve,
was this on action by Wikipedianers, or was this on action of yahoo without contacting the Wikipedia foundation?
Greetings rob
see:
index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20040302005391&newsLang=en --snipp-- March 02, 2004 08:20 AM US Eastern Timezone
Yahoo! Search Launches New Content Acquisition Program, Providing More Relevant, Comprehensive Online Content For Users
SUNNYVALE, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--March 2, 2004--
Includes Relationships With NPR, The New York Public Library, National Science Digital Library And More; Program Also Introduces Overture's New Site Match Paid Inclusion Program, Giving Commercial Content Providers Direct Way to Interact with Search Engines
Yahoo! Inc. (Nasdaq:YHOO), a leading global Internet company, today announced that Yahoo!(R) Search (http://search.yahoo.com) will be rolling out its new Content Acquisition Program (CAP) this week as part of Yahoo! Search's ongoing efforts to enhance search quality and comprehensiveness. CAP enables non-commercial and commercial content providers to better interact with Yahoo! Search Technology by directly providing their Web pages, which are then added to Yahoo!'s search index and displayed in search results based on their relevance to a search term.
Overture, a wholly-owned subsidiary of Yahoo!, has launched a new paid inclusion program, called Site Match, as the commercial component of CAP. Site Match allows commercial content providers to effectively submit Web content, update it frequently, obtain additional targeted leads, and track and optimize their performance.
"Our primary goal is to discover all the content on the Web for free. In addition, the Content Acquisition Program serves to make a richer set of content accessible to users in a way that most search engines today are unable to achieve," said Tim Cadogan, vice president of Search at Yahoo! Inc. "This program enables us to develop direct, structured relationships with content providers to increase comprehensiveness, maintain the most up-to-date data, improve relevance and thereby deliver a higher quality search experience for users."
As part of the non-commercial channel of CAP, called Public Site Match, Yahoo! Search is working with several content providers from government, academia and other non-profit sectors to help improve search quality and expand the breadth and depth of content users can access through search, including:
-- NPR (National Public Radio), an internationally acclaimed producer and distributor of non-commercial news, talk and entertainment programming, will provide access to the audio from its flagship news and information programs.
-- Northwestern University's online OYEZ project contains more than 2,000 hours of Supreme Court audio, including all audio recorded since 1995.
-- Library of Congress, the research arm of Congress, is the largest library in the world with more than 128 million items, including 29 million books and other print materials, 12 million photographs and 57 million manuscripts.
Additional CAP partners include The New York Public Library, one of the most renowned libraries in the country; Project Gutenberg, the Web's oldest producer of free electronic books; University of Michigan's OAIster project, which provides hard to find academic collections; UCLA's Cuneiform Digital Library Initiative (CDLI) with content documenting Babylonian history back to 3500 B.C.; Wikipedia, a free, multilingual online encyclopedia with articles ^^^^^^^^^^
in more than 50 languages; and the National Science Digital Library (NSDL), the National Science Foundation's online library, with more than 250 collections that improve the way Americans learn about science, technology, engineering, and mathematics. The OYEZ, CDLI and NSDL projects are all federally funded in part or in whole by the National Science Foundation.
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Salve,
Am Dienstag, 2. März 2004 20:07 schrieb Robert Michel:
was this on action by Wikipedianers, or was this on action of yahoo without contacting the Wikipedia foundation?
I want to add that is a good news *g*, probably the beginning of finding many friends for wikipedia, and the original yahoo press release is here: http://docs.yahoo.com/docs/pr/release1144.html
Greetings rob
Yes, I was in negotiations with Yahoo about this last week.
We have a contract in which we supply them with an XML feed (which I will have Jason construct) and they stick us in their index. They make no promises as to the placement of our urls, of course, as that's entirely up to their editorial department. But of course we have absolutely maximum quality content, so it is thought by all that we will rank very high in their index.
The area that this will benefit us most is when news breaks on some topic about which there is little information on the net -- an area in which we excel anyway.
I tried to get their PR person to feature us more prominently in the press release, but alas, she didn't listen to me. :-)
--Jimbo
"JW" == Jimmy Wales jwales@bomis.com writes:
JW> Yes, I was in negotiations with Yahoo about this last week. JW> We have a contract in which we supply them with an XML feed JW> (which I will have Jason construct) and they stick us in their JW> index.
Is it possible to get technical details on this feed?
~ESP
Salve Jimbo,
Am Dienstag, 2. März 2004 21:58 schrieb Jimmy Wales:
Yes, I was in negotiations with Yahoo about this last week.
Great :)
I tried to get their PR person to feature us more prominently in the press release, but alas, she didn't listen to me. :-)
I don`t think that the Wikipedia god a bad placement inside their press release - and we have the chance to place a statment of our own about this cooperation now, or in the future. ;-)
Cooperations with a commercial project is alltimes a walk on tightrope and it needs transparency - this is why I suggesst to think about our image - in the media - in the view of wikipedia user - in the view of wikipedianer - in the view of GO/NGOs, people we want to win as friend of the wikipedia.
Not everybody knows about the GNU-FDL and the spirit of GNU. The article in the Geman newsmagazin doesn´t mention the GNU-FDL nor explaind how our content is free - they wrote that one businessman Jimmy Wales started this project and serve the server and the software came from the programmer Ward Cunningham.
"Homo economicus" would think now, Mr Jimmy Wales is a smart businessman, he find and motivate naive young people to work for his projekt for free and he sells this content to big players like Yahoo.
(To avoid to be missunderstud by some non-Wikipedianer like journalists, I don`t share this point of view - I know that our Wikiproject would stay a free project and because it is free I do not have the smallest doubt, that Jimbo could sell this project for his own big profit - because it is free, yahoo could take our content for free :)
But I want to make clear what a Homo economicus could think about us, when he only knows the facts and not the spirit behind this project.
Such an image would be a handicap to win new friends for the wikipedia. We need a popularity of our spirit. How many people outside the GNU/Linux or IT world does understand the spirit and motivation behind GNU-FDL?
What is neccessary that e.G. an old person reads about the wikipedia in the newspaper and become motivatet to share his pictures and texts he made in is life as journalist? How can we get such an image about us in public that he deccide that we are the right partner for his" last wish" to save his work for the general public?
This cooperation with yahoo and the yhaoo non-commercial channel with 11 GO/ NGOs would be a good cause (chance) to give a press release/conference with all these other 10 groups and explain - why we are sharing content for free - how people all over the world can profit from our work - how people can support us
This wouldn`t be action for popularity, but for a better image that people would trust us more and would get a higer willingness to joining or contributing us. (Or one of the 10 others GO/NGOs, what would makes us, of course, happy, too).
Greetings rob
Robert Michel wrote:
(To avoid to be missunderstud by some non-Wikipedianer like journalists, I don`t share this point of view - I know that our Wikiproject would stay a free project and because it is free I do not have the smallest doubt, that Jimbo could sell this project for his own big profit - because it is free, yahoo could take our content for free :)
The project is owned by the Wikimedia Foundation, a nonprofit organization, not me. I can not sell it for my own big profit, even if I wanted to do that, which I don't.
--Jimbo
Salve Jimmy,
thanks for your clear answer, I havn`t doubts, but in articel in German magazins it was already unclear who is behind the wikipedia.
Am Donnerstag, 4. März 2004 15:17 schrieb Jimmy Wales:
The project is owned by the Wikimedia Foundation, a nonprofit organization, not me. I can not sell it for my own big profit, even if I wanted to do that, which I don't.
;)
I will take care in de.wikipedia that we do not forget to stress the Wikimedia Foundation and in all other languages, countries, everybody who read this, should back this responsability in mind: To stress more about the Wikipedia backrounds, like the Wikimedia Foundation, a nonprofit organization makes our project more reliable. Attention, everybody must stress Wiki-M-edia carfully to avoid that a journalist could maybe understand only Wikipedia!!!
Thank you Jimmy for your patience to clear this point again and.... :)
Have a good day, rob
PS: Search engines like Yahoo could be a good partner to get support to use their server more than 1000 times a day, for example with a script which check every new entry if it was only a copy&paste from one webpage or newsposting. Do you think when the Wikipedia Foundation would request for support, this would be realistic? E.G. Yahoo should has been an interest of their own that we don`t use copy right protectet material ;)
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