Please folks, if you want to start a new thread, don't do so by replying to a random message and deleting the previous subject and contents. When you do this, the message still contains headers referencing which messages it is a child of, and those of us with proper threading mail/news clients see the mutant message in an existing thread on a totally different topic. There has been a real rash of this in the past couple of days. -- Richard Grevers