On Tuesday 24 September 2002 01:15 am, Magnus Manske wrote:
Anthere wrote:
I am glad that everybody's seems SO happy by how quickly that issue was settled.
After the issue had been around for some days, and with a lots of "red links" against very few (two, I think I saw before I made the change), and the change being less work than this email, I just leaped into action ;)
I think that it was a /very/ important point that the two objections came from members of different Wikipedia projects. Remember, this is the English mailing list and just because we agree to do something doesn't mean that we should force this decision upon the other projects against their wishes.
Even though we have numerical superiority in terms of users Anthere is right in saying that the rights of minorities must be respected.
This is why it would be a good idea to have different default display setting tables for each of the different Wikipedias. That way each project can decide what defaults they want to set (big deal if the French use ?, the English use red underlined links, and the Germans use red links that are not underlined -- readers will figure it out).
Different cultures have different ideas about color and style so we should have some flexibility in this regard. In the interim, this could be manually set the way you changed it in CVS for each language Wikipedia as it goes online. The default display settings table can come later (otherwise this feature would have to be manually "patched" each time a language gets its software updated).
I still /strongly/ support having red links as the default for the English Wikipedia.
--- Daniel Mayer (aka mav)
To end at least part of this discussion, I updated the CVS so every wikipedia can now set its own default user options.
The default is "red links", so until a wikipedia explictly decides otherwise... ;)
Magnus
--- Magnus Manske magnus.manske@epost.de wrote:
To end at least part of this discussion, I updated the CVS so every wikipedia can now set its own default user options.
The default is "red links", so until a wikipedia explictly decides otherwise... ;)
Great! Now throw together a soft delete function, and I'll award you the Wikipedia Peace Prize. :)
Stephen G.
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--- Magnus Manske magnus.manske@epost.de wrote:
To end at least part of this discussion, I updated the CVS so every wikipedia can now set its own default user
options.
The default is "red links", so until a wikipedia explictly decides otherwise... ;)
I'll award you the Wikipedia Peace Prize. :)
Stephen G.
I *deeply* thank you, Magnus
Right now, 4 people have given an answer. 4 votes for the "?".
anth�re
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On 9/24/02 6:36 AM, "Magnus Manske" magnus.manske@epost.de wrote:
To end at least part of this discussion, I updated the CVS so every wikipedia can now set its own default user options.
The default is "red links", so until a wikipedia explictly decides otherwise... ;)
You should set it so the default is "?" except for the English wikipedia. Other wikipedias have already complained.
The Cunctator wrote:
You should set it so the default is "?" except for the English wikipedia. Other wikipedias have already complained.
Well, the German wikipedia is in favor of red links, judging from the votes on deutsch-l.
I'd like to keep "red links" standard, so on switching the software, people can judge wether they like it (or would like it as newcomers). Some might not even have tested that option on the English wikipedia. Others are probably afraid of a change, but with the new software, they will be busy with other adjustments... ;)
Anyway, once other wikipedias get switched, any of the developers will change it back to question marks if there is demand.
Magnus
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