Shizhao, I think your usage of the e-mail address you're using with
the name you're using in conjunction with this list is highly
deceptive.
Without inspection, it appears that your post speaks for the whole of
zh.wikipedia, which is not true.
Cantonese *is* a Chinese language, along with Mandarin.
I presume you would've had a similar objection if this were a post
requesting the now-established Minnan Wikipedia?
Do you speak Cantonese? At all?
Cantonese as it is spoken colloquially is significantly different from
baihua (standard written language).
The following is a short excerpt from the book "The Languages of
China", written by an *expert*, S. Robert Ramsey:
Cantonese: Pak⁷-fong¹ tong²-ma:i² yat⁸-t'au², yau⁴ yat⁷-ts'i⁵ hai²-sü¹
tsang¹-lön⁶ k'öi⁴ löng⁴-ko⁵ tsi¹-tsong¹ pin¹ yat⁷-ko⁵ pun³-si⁶ ta:i⁶.
Mandarin cognate translation: běifēng tóng(-) rìtóu, yǒu yī cì (-)chù
zhēnglùn (-) liǎngge zhīzhōng (-) yī ge běnshì dà.
I ask you not to focus on the phonetic differences (they are of course
irrelevant in this case unless the proposal is to write in the Roman
alphabet), but rather on these two facts:
1. Every (-) in the Mandarin cognate translation is a placeholder for
a word that doesn't exist in Mandarin.
2. Even so, the Mandarin reading is ungrammatical.
Of course this is colloquial, but if the proposal *is* for colloquial
Cantonese (as opposed to baihua, which is based originally on
Mandarin, read with Cantonese readings for characters), then this
information is relevant.
If, however, it is seeking to write in Baihua (which I don't believe
it is), I cannot see the purpose behind it as the two Wikipedias would
be basically the same.
Mark
On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 12:00:53 +0800, ZH Wikipedia <zh.wikipedia(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Objection! The way dissimilarity that Cantonese and
Chinese languages
just talk, but the sames all use the Chinese characters to write of.
[[zh:user:shizhao]]
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