http://www.nytimes.com/2001/01/18/technology/18SELF.html

Notice, this is from almost one year ago, and was written just three days after Wikipedia began.

Two websites, however, are mentioned that I would think would be of interest to Wikipedians: http://www.thevines.com/ and http://www.themestream.com/ I'd heard of these before but never knew very much about them. Now, thevines.com seems to be password only, and themestream.com seems to be down. Anyone know what's up with them?

Larry