Hum, I just read the [[Shikoku, Japan]] article. I seemed to have forgoten from sixth grade geography that Shikoku is one of the islands of Japan. It therefore does not at all pertain to the city naming conventions.
I would personally prefer such a large geographic entity to be not disambiguated, esp. in a way that makes it appear as if it were a city (other uses could be covered in a disambiguation block). Trouble is, which is the most widely used use of the word -- the dog breed, the island or something else I'm missing? Since there is no specific naming convention covering this, the standard give and take of general disambiguation will have to be followed.
I just did a google search. <Shikoku Japan -dog -breed> got over 60,000 results and <Shikoku dog breed> got only 697 results (<Shikoku dog> got less than 10,000). Clearly [[Shikoku]] should be where the article on the island should be (as I hoped). A link to [[Shikoku (dog breed)]] can be in a disambiguation block at [[Shikoku]] (is this breed of dog know by anything other than simply "Shikoku"? It would be a shame to have to needlessly use parenthetical disambiguation).
--maveric149
On a similar note, "chihuahua mexico -dog" yields 183,000 results, while "chihuahua -mexico dog" yields 65,200. We might dare to generalize: if in doubt, place names take priority over things named for places -- if the names are identical. If the names vary even slightly, do the right thing: [[Dalmatia]] is a region of [[Croatia]], but [[Dalmatian]] is a [[dog]].
-----Original Message----- From: wikipedia-l-admin@nupedia.com [mailto:wikipedia-l-admin@nupedia.com]On Behalf Of Daniel Mayer Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 12:31 To: wikipedia-l@nupedia.com Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] Re: City, state convention
Hum, I just read the [[Shikoku, Japan]] article. I seemed to have forgoten from sixth grade geography that Shikoku is one of the islands of Japan. It therefore does not at all pertain to the city naming conventions.
I would personally prefer such a large geographic entity to be not disambiguated, esp. in a way that makes it appear as if it were a city (other uses could be covered in a disambiguation block). Trouble is, which is the most widely used use of the word -- the dog breed, the island or something else I'm missing? Since there is no specific naming convention covering this, the standard give and take of general disambiguation will have to be followed.
I just did a google search. <Shikoku Japan -dog -breed> got over 60,000 results and <Shikoku dog breed> got only 697 results (<Shikoku dog> got less than 10,000). Clearly [[Shikoku]] should be where the article on the island should be (as I hoped). A link to [[Shikoku (dog breed)]] can be in a disambiguation block at [[Shikoku]] (is this breed of dog know by anything other than simply "Shikoku"? It would be a shame to have to needlessly use parenthetical disambiguation).
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