Hello list,
This chap David Goldman has a website called
copyrightexpired.com, where
he has some old images that he has scanned. I'm forwarding our
correspondence to the list, just to clutter it up and annoy everyone.
*cough* I mean, because I'm not sure about copyright laws, and would like
to get the opinions of people here just to make sure his pictures are all
right to release under the GNU Free Documentation License.
Oliver
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| Oliver Pereira |
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Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 13:40:21 -0400
From: David Goldman <dgoldma2(a)twcny.rr.com>
To: Oliver Pereira <omp199(a)ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Subject: Re:
copyrightexpired.com
That would all be fine. Let me know if you need exact publication dates for
any certain image. They are all published before 1922. The only ones that I
don't have documentation on are the Tiere der Urwelt cards from Germany
(some of the color images). There appearance suggests pre WWI but no date
has been confirmed.
David
----- Original Message -----
From: "Oliver Pereira" <omp199(a)ecs.soton.ac.uk>
To: "David Goldman" <dgoldma2(a)twcny.rr.com>
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 1:03 PM
Subject: Re:
copyrightexpired.com
Dear David,
Thank you for replying to my question about your website,
copyrightexpired.com. I'm sorry that I've taken so long to reply. I was
wondering, since neither of us is a lawyer, would it be all right for me
to quote your message on the Wikipedia mailing list, so that someone there
with more legal expertise can check if our using your images in the
Wikipedia would be all right? There are some complications in the GNU Free
Documentation License which I don't fully understand, so I'd feel more
comfortable if we could get another opinion.
If we did use your images, we would credit you in the associated image
information page, and put a link back to your website there. We don't
generally put credits in the article pages themselves, where the images
are shown, for space reasons. However, clicking on an image takes you to
the associated image information page, where the credit would be given.
Does that sound all right to you?
Thanks again,
Oliver Pereira
On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, David Goldman wrote:
> Hi, the images at that web site are found in books and magazines old
enough
> to be considered in the public domain. But it is
merely my understanding
and
> not based on any formal legal research. I like
the idea of the Wikipedia
and
> welcome you to use any of the images on my site
that you find useful.
Since
> I have other sites that show pictures belonging
to practicing artists,
I
> thought it prudent to try and have people contact
me before using any
images
> in general. I would appreciate a reference back
to my website on any of
the
> illustrations that you use.
> Best regards,
> David Goldman
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Oliver Pereira" <omp199(a)ecs.soton.ac.uk>
> To: "David Goldman" <dgoldma2(a)twcny.rr.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 10:06 PM
> Subject:
copyrightexpired.com
>
>
> > Dear Mr. Goldman,
> >
> > I have just discovered your website,
copyrightexpired.com, and have
some
> > questions about it. You say on your main
page that the site contains a
> > "sampling of my collection of Prehistoric Animal images published
prior to
> > 1923", and the domain name suggests
that the images are no longer
> > copyrighted. However, you then go on to state conditions under which
users
> > may or may not use the images. Presumably
you would only be able to do
> > this if you owned the copyrights. Is this the case?
> >
> > I would be interested in using the images in an online collaborative
> > encyclopaedia, called the "Wikipedia". Ideally, images included in
the
> > Wikipedia should be released under the terms of the GNU Free
Documentation
> > License by the copyright holder, if there is
one. If you are the
copyright
holder, would you consent to do this?
Thank you for your help in answering my questions,
Oliver Pereira
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See:-
copyrightexpired.com:
*
http://www.copyrightexpired.com/
Wikipedia:
*
http://www.wikipedia.org/
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| Oliver Pereira |
| Dept. of Electronics and Computer Science |
| University of Southampton |
| omp199(a)ecs.soton.ac.uk |
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| Oliver Pereira |
| Dept. of Electronics and Computer Science |
| University of Southampton |
| omp199(a)ecs.soton.ac.uk |
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