--- Takuya Murata <takusi(a)manjiro.net> wrote:
Hum, you are
very right with language issue
But, even if this list is in english, it is the
main
list, so issues discussed here are likely to
impact
all wikipedias
Then, we should stop this. Please don't claim this
is a
policy then you've got to conform that.
I am sorry Takuya but I didnot understand what you
meant there...
Do you mean we should stop to try to set a common
policy all together, and just all of us go our own
way, with policy defined on each wiki separatly ? This
could cause trouble in terms of software development
if only.
As for claiming...well, I was not aware I was claiming
anything...and I am not one that follow very well
policies :-(
Besides, that
the french silliness with comma
hunting
that has been going on for about a month, that
explain
this subject being raised again. But the issue is
not
new :-)
My opinion is simple enough. We should stop
governing non-
English wikipedias by English'd government.
Sure.
We can also claim we don't have exactly the same goals
as they were defined on the english wiki; we can claim
we don't use the same means; we can claim the
community doesnot function the same way. We can claim
each wikipedia has a set of individual references. We
may.
But, still, we share common software, that requires
common agreement on some points.
I would like us to share more than just software. I
think that though each wiki can be different from the
other, each with its particularities, it would be nice
if we didnot think of each as a separate "nation" with
an independant government. I would prefer only one
government, with members from all wikipedias (and
enough members from all for decisions not to be
dominated by one language college). Now there is you
and Aoineko on the Japanese to speak up, we are quite
a bunch from the french, germans and polish are quite
present also; there's Elian and Giskart, and others...
This doesnot mean regionalism cannot be taken into
account, no ?
Therefore, the discussion here
should
be irrelevant and we should move this to each
wikipedia's
village pump.
Yes and no.
It is not irrelevant, for some people thrive on
monitoring the number of articles, and many
internationals are eager to go up in the rank.
For those, it is important that the numbering
technique be the same, for the comparison to stay
valid.
Why do we have to compare in the first place? We are
not
doing race where who reaches first milestone among
non-
English editions.
I wonder sometimes why I so often find myself
defending other people opinions ?!?
I wholeheartedly agree with you here
But, I also know some french people would be very very
disappointed if they could not go on with that race.
That is just so.
You know...guy's stuff...car race...naked women (or
men...no offense meant) ...football...beers...that's
is not something I understand very well...;-)
On the other
hand, it would be interesting that
discussions go in parallele in pump (of coffee shop
:-)) for everyone to feel involved
Not feel but all of people must be involved. Unless
that, we
can claim the consensus is based on the public.
My feeling is that counting technique should maybe
be
related to the language family.
That is my point. Couting should vary according to
the
language or something like family.
yup
then english, german, french, spanish, esperanto,
nederlands...all same family :-)))
By the way, I posted an issue at village pump of
ja.wikipedia. Hopefully they give me (not us,
though) more
thoughts.
cheers :-)
ps : Brion, you have my support whatever your
decision. C'est un panier de crabe de toutes fa�ons
;-)
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