Hum, you are very right with language issue But, even if this list is in english, it is the main list, so issues discussed here are likely to impact all wikipedias
Then, we should stop this. Please don't claim this is a policy then you've got to conform that.
Besides, that the french silliness with comma hunting that has been going on for about a month, that explain this subject being raised again. But the issue is not new :-)
My opinion is simple enough. We should stop governing non- English wikipedias by English'd government.
Therefore, the discussion here should be irrelevant and we should move this to each wikipedia's village pump.
Yes and no. It is not irrelevant, for some people thrive on monitoring the number of articles, and many internationals are eager to go up in the rank. For those, it is important that the numbering technique be the same, for the comparison to stay valid.
Why do we have to compare in the first place? We are not doing race where who reaches first milestone among non- English editions.
On the other hand, it would be interesting that discussions go in parallele in pump (of coffee shop :-)) for everyone to feel involved
Not feel but all of people must be involved. Unless that, we can claim the consensus is based on the public.
My feeling is that counting technique should maybe be related to the language family.
That is my point. Couting should vary according to the language or something like family.
By the way, I posted an issue at village pump of ja.wikipedia. Hopefully they give me (not us, though) more thoughts.
--- Takuya Murata takusi@manjiro.net wrote:
Hum, you are very right with language issue But, even if this list is in english, it is the
main
list, so issues discussed here are likely to impact all wikipedias
Then, we should stop this. Please don't claim this is a policy then you've got to conform that.
I am sorry Takuya but I didnot understand what you meant there... Do you mean we should stop to try to set a common policy all together, and just all of us go our own way, with policy defined on each wiki separatly ? This could cause trouble in terms of software development if only. As for claiming...well, I was not aware I was claiming anything...and I am not one that follow very well policies :-(
Besides, that the french silliness with comma
hunting
that has been going on for about a month, that
explain
this subject being raised again. But the issue is
not
new :-)
My opinion is simple enough. We should stop governing non- English wikipedias by English'd government.
Sure. We can also claim we don't have exactly the same goals as they were defined on the english wiki; we can claim we don't use the same means; we can claim the community doesnot function the same way. We can claim each wikipedia has a set of individual references. We may. But, still, we share common software, that requires common agreement on some points. I would like us to share more than just software. I think that though each wiki can be different from the other, each with its particularities, it would be nice if we didnot think of each as a separate "nation" with an independant government. I would prefer only one government, with members from all wikipedias (and enough members from all for decisions not to be dominated by one language college). Now there is you and Aoineko on the Japanese to speak up, we are quite a bunch from the french, germans and polish are quite present also; there's Elian and Giskart, and others...
This doesnot mean regionalism cannot be taken into account, no ?
Therefore, the discussion here should be irrelevant and we should move this to each wikipedia's village pump.
Yes and no. It is not irrelevant, for some people thrive on monitoring the number of articles, and many internationals are eager to go up in the rank. For those, it is important that the numbering technique be the same, for the comparison to stay valid.
Why do we have to compare in the first place? We are not doing race where who reaches first milestone among non- English editions.
I wonder sometimes why I so often find myself defending other people opinions ?!? I wholeheartedly agree with you here
But, I also know some french people would be very very disappointed if they could not go on with that race. That is just so. You know...guy's stuff...car race...naked women (or men...no offense meant) ...football...beers...that's is not something I understand very well...;-)
On the other hand, it would be interesting that discussions go in parallele in pump (of coffee shop :-)) for everyone to feel involved
Not feel but all of people must be involved. Unless that, we can claim the consensus is based on the public.
My feeling is that counting technique should maybe
be
related to the language family.
That is my point. Couting should vary according to the language or something like family.
yup then english, german, french, spanish, esperanto, nederlands...all same family :-)))
By the way, I posted an issue at village pump of ja.wikipedia. Hopefully they give me (not us, though) more thoughts.
cheers :-)
ps : Brion, you have my support whatever your decision. C'est un panier de crabe de toutes fa�ons ;-)
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