Hi all,
Brion's just enabled a feature of mine called "Cascading Protection". Simply put, this automagically applies temporary full protection to any page included on a page protected or semi-protected with the "cascading bit". Brion has so far protected the Main Page of en.wikipedia with this feature, which should eliminate main-page vandalism, except of images on commons; which could be uploaded by a bot, protected manually, or protected on commons. I would also strongly recommend protecting Main Page/Tomorrow, or equivalent on other projects, but I lack the sysop bit to do it myself. Any sysop is free to activate or deactivate this on a page that appears to require it; within whatever decision-making processes exist on the target wikis.
Please note that the edit and move tabs will appear as normal to save performance, however a warning indicating where the cascading protection comes from will appear when sysops try to edit, and an error will appear when regular users try to edit these pages.
Take care,
Andrew Garrett
(werdna)
Ohh, I just tested this a bit. Works pretty much the way I was hoping for. Thanks!
Only thing I might bug ye about -- what are the relevant MediaWiki messages? The main one, I think, would be whatever indicates the page has been affected by cascading protection.
Hm, I also see that it shows up, when using &action=protect -- are there any other circumstances in which the cascading effect will be apparent? I'm mainly thinking of non-admins, here. Unless we're planning on using this infrequently enough that this isn't a major issue.
-Luna
Does this mean that if a page receives cascading protection, all templates/images on it will be automatically protected (and will be automatically unprotected when removed from the page with cascading protection)? This would completely eliminate Main Page vandalism.
I understand that consensus is against semi-protection of Main Page Featured Articles, but recent statistics have shown that Main Page Featured Articles are in a vandalised state for 6-10% of the 24-hour duration that they are on the Main Page (the actual figures are likely to be higher, as template vandalism and vandalism by registered users was not counted). Hence, we should seriously consider applying cascading semi-protection to Main Page Featured Articles.
On 1/14/07, Luna lunasantin@gmail.com wrote:
Ohh, I just tested this a bit. Works pretty much the way I was hoping for. Thanks!
Only thing I might bug ye about -- what are the relevant MediaWiki messages? The main one, I think, would be whatever indicates the page has been affected by cascading protection.
Hm, I also see that it shows up, when using &action=protect -- are there any other circumstances in which the cascading effect will be apparent? I'm mainly thinking of non-admins, here. Unless we're planning on using this infrequently enough that this isn't a major issue.
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J.L.W.S. The Special One wrote:
Does this mean that if a page receives cascading protection, all templates/images on it will be automatically protected (and will be automatically unprotected when removed from the page with cascading protection)? This would completely eliminate Main Page vandalism.
I understand that consensus is against semi-protection of Main Page Featured Articles, but recent statistics have shown that Main Page Featured Articles are in a vandalised state for 6-10% of the 24-hour duration that they are on the Main Page (the actual figures are likely to be higher, as template vandalism and vandalism by registered users was not counted). Hence, we should seriously consider applying cascading semi-protection to Main Page Featured Articles.
On 1/14/07, Luna lunasantin@gmail.com wrote:
Ohh, I just tested this a bit. Works pretty much the way I was hoping for. Thanks!
Only thing I might bug ye about -- what are the relevant MediaWiki messages? The main one, I think, would be whatever indicates the page has been affected by cascading protection.
Hm, I also see that it shows up, when using &action=protect -- are there any other circumstances in which the cascading effect will be apparent? I'm mainly thinking of non-admins, here. Unless we're planning on using this infrequently enough that this isn't a major issue.
-Luna
I'm not quite sure what *cascading* semi-protection would achieve here. All templates transcluded onto Today's Featured Article are routinely fully protected now (semi-protection is no use against the kind of vandal that hunts down unprotected templates), so this would only have the same effect as normal semi-protection, which is already applied if vandalism gets particularly bad.
-Gurch
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J.L.W.S. The Special One wrote:
Does this mean that if a page receives cascading protection, all templates/images on it will be automatically protected (and will be automatically unprotected when removed from the page with cascading protection)?
Yes.
This would completely eliminate Main Page vandalism.
Doubtful, but it's supposed to help a lot. :)
- -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
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