On Monday 14 October 2002 12:01 pm, intlwiki-l-request@nupedia.com wrote:
Is es.wikipedia going to get upgraded soon? The people at EL are not coming back soon, though they consider it possible for the future. Leaving es.wikipedia with the old software is crippling it, I might as well change the main page for "Por favor, vaya a Enciclopedia Libre".
AstroNomer
Could we at least officially offer them the opportunity to come back first? Several people, including myself, have put one /hell/ of a lot of work in trying to make reunification possible. As a result I believe Wikipedia has changed for the best by trying to address their major concerns (at least the ones we know about).
Setting up a test server is fine, but Brion PLEASE DO NOT CONVERT THE LIVE DATABASE TO PHASE III until we have either given-up on reunification efforts or EL decides to come back into the Wikipedia family as a full member (on our server).
We need to draft a letter to them that is both in English and in Spanish. Some notes on this are already at http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_letter_to_the_Enciclopedia_Libre_group http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Maveric49/commentary
It is the start of the work/school week so I won't have much time for this until Friday but I encourage others to work on this.
The Spanish Wikipedia needs users. There already are a bunch of users over at EL. Why not try to woo them back? Transferring their database here is trivial but transferring their users is a different matter alltogether.
If negotiations break down we can still transfer their database here so that we could at least get some of their users.
I just wish my Spanish wasn't so dang terable.
-- Daniel Mayer (aka mav)
Daniel Mayer wrote:
Could we at least officially offer them the opportunity to come back first?
We've been doing that for months.
Several people, including myself, have put one /hell/ of a lot of work in trying to make reunification possible. As a result I believe Wikipedia has changed for the best by trying to address their major concerns (at least the ones we know about).
And we should continue doing so; making the improved software available to all languages is supposedly one of the concerns we're addressing...
Setting up a test server is fine, but Brion PLEASE DO NOT CONVERT THE LIVE DATABASE TO PHASE III until we have either given-up on reunification efforts or EL decides to come back into the Wikipedia family as a full member (on our server).
I'm happy to wait (but neither you nor I are the ones trying to *use* the thing) however I'm ready to do a final conversion from the es.wikipedia dtabase (and/or the EL database) as soon as it's agreed upon.
Either way, the interface needs to be ready and working on the current software... and we can always import pages from the EL server later. As you yourself have said, it's getting the _users_ that counts. All waiting on the upgrade does is show how little interest "we" have in actually maintaining the Spanish section of the 'pedia.
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
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