On Tuesday 02 July 2002 02:10 am, Toby Bartels wrote:

What's important to me is that Bryan Derksen is right, and we should make sure that he continues to be right:

Just a clarification -- I have not been arguing for the abolition, or even serious curtailing of the disambiguation process or even of disambiguation pages themselves as they currently are. My concern has been over the increase in the creation of disambiguation pages in cases where there has been_any_ambiguity over what is meant by a given term -- even when there is an obvious most common use of the term (at least in the form presented -- [[worm]] for example). The reasoning behind my view, is that I wish to preserve spontaneous linking to articles whenever possible, so that we can avoid parenthetical disambiguation like [[worm (biology)]] (because, unlike computer worms, the animals are only known as "worms" in English -- which included several phyla of animals).

"''This article is about worms, the animals. There is also a Wikipedia article about [[computer worm]]s.'' "

I love it! Short, to the point and quickly directs people to where they need to go. This way the page titled [[worm]] can be both a disambiguation page (in block format) AND an article about the most common usage of the simple term "worm" (use of the word "worm" by itself in a computer article is just jargon, "computer worm" is what is used when context must be established by the term itself -- such as in a hypertext encyclopedia or in news reporting).

Currently, the computer bit is at the bottom, which I too don't like.

I've never been very comfortable with using "see also" for disambiguation either -- I just couldn't think of a way to make it work at the top of the page (and my early attempts were ugly and quickly reverted by others).

But I think that it's important to keep the top stuff *short* -- get people to the right page, and then start the article.

I agree.

--maveric149