Gerard, perhaps you should look at the text Boris quoted.
He isn't referring to the creation of a Hopi Wikipedia, he is
referring to the ideas of Stan and Delirium to create different
Wikipedias for different cultures rather than different languages,
which I think is a bad idea.
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 22:49:53 +0100, Gerard Meijssen
Boris Lohnzweiger wrote:
Frankly spoken, I am totally against that idea
because I think it would lead to a fragmentation of the knowledge that we are trying to
collect. I couldn't think of any Indian topics that wouldn't have a place in the
general English encyclopedia. The main advantage of a large encyclopedia is that is
gathers knowledge from various fields (in our case, in many different languages). We
shouldn't fragmentize knowledge but rather unify it in one single place. Once we'd
start splitting Wikipedias into separate editions for ethnic or cultural groups, it would
eventually lead to "Wikipedias for Christians", "Wikipedias for
Muslims", "Wikipedias for Women", "Wikipedias for Students",
"Wikipedias for Seniors" and the like, and all of them would have to be
translated into 200 languages. Would that still constitute a "Free Encyclopedia"
then or wouldn't it rather mean of plethora of "closed shops".
We are talking languages here and not "Wikipedia for Christians" or
such. This will never happen as Wikipedia is a trademark. A wikipedia in
Hopi does not mean that the same subjects cannot be covered in any other
wikipedia therefore how does it fragment the knowledge we are trying to
collect ? Your argument against Hopi is as valid when wielded against
the English wikipedia because the French wikipedia could serve equally
well as a lingua franca.
IMHO, our main advantage is that we bring together
people with all different sorts of backgrounds and enable them to *cooperate*. Thus we are
able to attract as much knowledge as we presently do. The exchange between people of very
different origins is a unique feature of Wikipedia. Any sort of separation or segregation
among Wikipedia's contributors would invariably effect the level of quality we have
been able to achieve, simply because it would mean a brain-drain for the general
The level of quality that we achieve is something that can happen in any
wikipedia and some argue that the de:wikipedia is better than the
en:wikipedia. Our stated aim is to provide our wikipedia in all
languages currently 187. We can achieve great things in all languages.
It will take time, hard work but there is nothing lost and much gained
with a wikipedia for each language that is spoken.
Nevertheless certains steps in order to better
serve specific communities of users can very well make sense. More than that, they would
raise Wikipedia's value even more. AFAIK WikiReaders provide a very useful tool for
that and so do categories and lists. Please let us not make knowledge exclusive while we
are striving to unify it in one single place were it is easily accessible to everyone.
We're here to remove obstacles to knowledge and not to errect new ones.
How will you serve the people that speak Arabic, Parsi or Bangla with an
English reader? Please let us not make knowledge exclusive to those that
speak one of the major languages. We are striving to provide a resource
to all people, we should cherish all spoken languages and not
discriminate against any of them. If there are five people willing and
committed to write an encyclopedia, with NPOV content, cherish them
because to me they are the unsung heroes of our community.
wikipedia-l(a)Wikimedia.org schrieb am 11.03.05 20:25:23:
Sure, that's a way to go. But not to the detriment of the big English or
French Wikipedias. Especially there could be an Indian (South Asia)
Wikipedia in English. But only when the time comes that a lot of people want
>From: Delirium <delirium(a)hackish.org>
>Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 13:48:28 -0500
>Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] The role of a wikipedia for a language like Hopi
>Or do people actually seriously think we *should* have separate
>Wikipedias catering to different cultures?
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