Is there any source for news occuring within Wikimedia? I read today that Jimbo expects the English Wikipedia to be ready for a 1.0 release by the end of 2005; but I read it in ZDNET, and there's not a mention of it on the actual 1.0 page, nor on the Village pump, nor on the mailing list?
On Apr 8, 2005 10:08 PM, Jack Lutz jack-lutz@comcast.net wrote:
Is there any source for news occuring within Wikimedia? I read today that Jimbo expects the English Wikipedia to be ready for a 1.0 release by the end of 2005; but I read it in ZDNET, and there's not a mention of it on the actual 1.0 page, nor on the Village pump, nor on the mailing list?
I was under the impression that Foundation news was collected on Meta. Try http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_News and http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Goings-on.
--Slowking Man
The main page of the Foundation website http://wikimediafoundation.org/ and the Quarto newsletter http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Quarto are other good sources for Foundation news. There is also a Foundation-news mailing list for announcements http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-news-l, though that might be being used only for Quarto-related announcements, and so far hasn't been used at all.
Angela.
Christopher Larberg a écrit:
On Apr 8, 2005 10:08 PM, Jack Lutz jack-lutz@comcast.net wrote:
Is there any source for news occuring within Wikimedia? I read today that Jimbo expects the English Wikipedia to be ready for a 1.0 release by the end of 2005; but I read it in ZDNET, and there's not a mention of it on the actual 1.0 page, nor on the Village pump, nor on the mailing list?
I was under the impression that Foundation news was collected on Meta. Try http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_News and http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Goings-on.
--Slowking Man
I would not rely on these two ones too much. I have no time any more to update them, and I think Ang does not either As she said, we try to update now the news on the foundation website. And the Quarto is there to summarize news four times per year.
The announcement list was just set up very recently (2 weeks I think), so is still in setting up stage (but please register).
4th place to get information is simply here.
I am personally trying to put the official information more on the wmf site than on meta now, to try to convey the habit that official information is to be found on wmf, while meta, freely editable, is more work into progress and often a lot of speculations... and though in interesting source (I love meta :-)) should not be necessarily considered an authority source for information....
As things are, none of these four places are reporting official attempts to push for 1.0. As far as I am aware, it is mostly that Jimbo participated to interviews in the past days and mentionned this.
ant
4th place to get information is simply here.
Or, more likely, the Foundation-l list http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l.
As things are, none of these four places are reporting official attempts to push for 1.0. As far as I am aware, it is mostly that Jimbo participated to interviews in the past days and mentionned this.
I think Jimbo's comments were more a reflection of the work going on at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Pushing_to_1.0 and in other places, which suggest a print version *might be* possible this year, rather than an announcement of any definite plan.
Angela.
Anthere schreef:
The announcement list was just set up very recently (2 weeks I think), so is still in setting up stage (but please register).
Do you mean this list? http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/announce-l
It is created in November 2002 whiteout success.
A idea for project wide communication;
Wikimedia Foundation Internal Radio System
The idea is to make a short internal news journal about stuff related to Wikimedia and her projects.
I think whit a audio "newsletter" you will get a bigger audience. Users will also quicker get involved I think.
Not a real internet radio. Only one "program" of a couple of minutes every week. That is important, that there is always on a fix date a new version. If not it will be dead very soon.
And the broadcast is only the posting of a url to the Ogg Vorbis file. The can be done on the Foundation-l list and the Wiki's.
To start it could be a "Word of the Chief". Every week a short voice message from Jimbo about what he is doing this week and past week regarding Wikimedia. If it successful there can be also some intervention done by people form the different projects to tell about news form there wiki. Or a message form a developer about how the hosting situation is doing and changes to the software. That type of stuff.
But to start a very small and basic message from Jimbo. Like you would say something in a voice mailbox. Nothing fancy.
Walter
Walter Vermeir a écrit:
Anthere schreef:
The announcement list was just set up very recently (2 weeks I think), so is still in setting up stage (but please register).
Do you mean this list? http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/announce-l
It is created in November 2002 whiteout success.
No. I am not talking of the announcement for Wikipedia, but of a list which will allow editors to ultimately receive Quarto by mail.
A idea for project wide communication;
Wikimedia Foundation Internal Radio System
The idea is to make a short internal news journal about stuff related to Wikimedia and her projects.
I think whit a audio "newsletter" you will get a bigger audience. Users will also quicker get involved I think.
Not a real internet radio. Only one "program" of a couple of minutes every week. That is important, that there is always on a fix date a new version. If not it will be dead very soon.
And the broadcast is only the posting of a url to the Ogg Vorbis file. The can be done on the Foundation-l list and the Wiki's.
To start it could be a "Word of the Chief". Every week a short voice message from Jimbo about what he is doing this week and past week regarding Wikimedia. If it successful there can be also some intervention done by people form the different projects to tell about news form there wiki. Or a message form a developer about how the hosting situation is doing and changes to the software. That type of stuff.
But to start a very small and basic message from Jimbo. Like you would say something in a voice mailbox. Nothing fancy.
Walter
Why not... but this will be then limited to those able to understand english Walter. We always reach the same point : do it in quick, have fresh news, but restricted to english speaking audience take the time to translate and run the risk to be outdated.
I know not any solution :-(
On Apr 10, 2005 4:07 PM, Walter Vermeir walter@wikipedia.be wrote:
Do you mean this list? http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/announce-l
No, this one: http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-news-l It hasn't been used yet. Posts to it will currently be moderated by Sj and Anthere.
Angela.
Angela a écrit:
On Apr 10, 2005 4:07 PM, Walter Vermeir walter@wikipedia.be wrote:
Do you mean this list? http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/announce-l
No, this one: http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-news-l It hasn't been used yet. Posts to it will currently be moderated by Sj and Anthere.
Angela.
Hmmm, well, for at least a while, I think this list will only be used to send Quarto, so the sender will be someone from Quarto team.
Now, if we also use this list to send any announcement from the Foundation, it might absolutely be Jimbo, Angela, Tim, Michael, and very likely a couple more people, such as typically Mav. This use has not been discussed (yet ?). As far as I am concerned, if tomorrow, a big stuff show up, if Ang wants to inform people through this mean, this is absolutely okay with me of course. It just has not been discussed for now. I am not sure we want to multiply the number of mean to inform people... however, a rather big number of editors wished to receive the information Quarto was published, or even Quarto itself by mail. I just figured we should not create just a list for Quarto, so chose a rather neutral name which could be used for other announcements from time to time.
Ant
On Apr 10, 2005 7:45 PM, Anthere anthere9@yahoo.com wrote:
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Hmmm, well, for at least a while, I think this list will only be used to send Quarto, so the sender will be someone from Quarto team.
Now, if we also use this list to send any announcement from the Foundation, it might absolutely be Jimbo, Angela, Tim, Michael, and very likely a couple more people, such as typically Mav. This use has not been discussed (yet ?). As far as I am concerned, if tomorrow, a big stuff show up, if Ang wants to inform people through this mean, this is absolutely okay with me of course. It just has not been discussed for now. I am not sure we want to multiply the number of mean to inform people... however, a rather big number of editors wished to receive the information Quarto was published, or even Quarto itself by mail. I just figured we should not create just a list for Quarto, so chose a rather neutral name which could be used for other announcements from time to time.
Ant
The list came from a request some people had made to receive quarto by email and a draft email is being worked on at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:WQ and is currently in need of translation. If this list is going to be more than a purely quarto-related list, it could, and i believe, should be a multi-lingual announcement list. This means as Anthere correctly points out that notices will be delayed due to having to be translated (though maybe it could be prioritised on Meta [[translation requests]] page?). Or maybe we are just duplicating [[:m:Goings on]]? It seems to be a bit strange to be discussing one list on another list so I'm ccing this to foundation-news-l - I think the first post to the list :) Maybe we can use this thread to discuss the list there and what it's going to be used for. I agree that it is difficult to keep up with what's happening and even easy to miss something interesting. Michael Snow's Signpost http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost is excellent in this regard (though it is only in English) Cormac
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