Ebay is at 11th place and Wikipedia is at 16th place, but, Wikipedia has better daily reach per million from March/June 2006: http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?compare_sites=ebay.com&...
Interesting thing is that Wikipedia is backed to exponential growth on Alexa.
--- Milos Rancic millosh@mutualaid.org wrote:
Ebay is at 11th place and Wikipedia is at 16th place, but, Wikipedia has better daily reach per million from March/June 2006:
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?compare_sites=ebay.com&...
Interesting thing is that Wikipedia is backed to exponential growth on Alexa.
Indeed. That whole Seigenthaler incident and then the Nature article really saturated several months worth of growth in a short time. Now we are trending up again. That's good. But that also means we may need a fundraiser before long.
-- mav
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On 9/5/06, Daniel Mayer maveric149@yahoo.com wrote:
But that also means we may need a fundraiser before long.
-- mav
Is that a bad thing?
I am going to Alexa whenever Wikimedia servers have a problems :)
It seems that my prediction (I am sure that I am not the only one) that Wikipedia will be inside of top 10 sites at the end of this year -- will be correct :)
Also, if everything is going well (i.e., fundraising, servers etc.) I think that at the end of 2007 Wikipedia will be at the fourth place (after top three: Yahoo, Google, MSN) and at the end of 2008 Wikipedia will reach the first place.
Hehe... I started to think as a company's manager: may we give to our users some more services so we can make our growth better? ;)
On 9/5/06, Daniel Mayer maveric149@yahoo.com wrote:
--- Milos Rancic millosh@mutualaid.org wrote:
Ebay is at 11th place and Wikipedia is at 16th place, but, Wikipedia has better daily reach per million from March/June 2006:
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?compare_sites=ebay.com&...
Interesting thing is that Wikipedia is backed to exponential growth on Alexa.
Indeed. That whole Seigenthaler incident and then the Nature article really saturated several months worth of growth in a short time. Now we are trending up again. That's good. But that also means we may need a fundraiser before long.
-- mav
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On 05/09/06, Milos Rancic millosh@mutualaid.org wrote:
I am going to Alexa whenever Wikimedia servers have a problems :)
It seems that my prediction (I am sure that I am not the only one) that Wikipedia will be inside of top 10 sites at the end of this year -- will be correct :)
Also, if everything is going well (i.e., fundraising, servers etc.) I think that at the end of 2007 Wikipedia will be at the fourth place (after top three: Yahoo, Google, MSN) and at the end of 2008 Wikipedia will reach the first place.
Hehe... I started to think as a company's manager: may we give to our users some more services so we can make our growth better? ;)
<infamous_prediction> Wikipedia will never be in the top 5 most popular sites on the internet </>
Gerrit.
Your in famous prediction, eh? I predict that, by the end of the year, the number of edit conflicts will be growing exponentially.
On 9/5/06, Gerrit Holl gerrit.holl@gmail.com wrote:
On 05/09/06, Milos Rancic millosh@mutualaid.org wrote:
I am going to Alexa whenever Wikimedia servers have a problems :)
It seems that my prediction (I am sure that I am not the only one) that Wikipedia will be inside of top 10 sites at the end of this year -- will be correct :)
Also, if everything is going well (i.e., fundraising, servers etc.) I think that at the end of 2007 Wikipedia will be at the fourth place (after top three: Yahoo, Google, MSN) and at the end of 2008 Wikipedia will reach the first place.
Hehe... I started to think as a company's manager: may we give to our users some more services so we can make our growth better? ;)
<infamous_prediction> Wikipedia will never be in the top 5 most popular sites on the internet </>
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On 9/5/06, Akash Mehta draicone@gmail.com wrote:
Your in famous prediction, eh? I predict that, by the end of the year, the number of edit conflicts will be growing exponentially.
There's a solution to edit conflicts: real-time collaborative editing. http://synchroedit.com/ http://darcs.0x539.de/trac/obby/cgi-bin/trac.cgi
writely.com has good real time collaborative editing too. However, the client side needs are simply too much for Wikipedia; currently, even non-css browsers can use Wikipedia. If we were to suddenly start demanding javascript and a constant internet connection we would lose many valuable editors. In addition, many copy the article text into a third party application (word - spellchecking, or notepad++ - macros; i am guilty of using both these apps for editing at some point), make what edits they wish and then copy it back. How do we handle this?
On 9/5/06, Erik Moeller eloquence@gmail.com wrote:
On 9/5/06, Akash Mehta draicone@gmail.com wrote:
Your in famous prediction, eh? I predict that, by the end of the year, the number of edit conflicts will be growing exponentially.
There's a solution to edit conflicts: real-time collaborative editing. http://synchroedit.com/ http://darcs.0x539.de/trac/obby/cgi-bin/trac.cgi
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On 9/5/06, Akash Mehta draicone@gmail.com wrote:
writely.com has good real time collaborative editing too.
Actually it's pretty bad - I tried it for Wikinews together with Messedrocker. Too slow. SynchroEdit seemed more mature last time I tried.
However, the client side needs are simply too much for Wikipedia
You would never require it, of course. However, if two users are editing the same page, and both have client side collaboration capability, there's no need not to switch into real-time mode. Saving the page would still trigger an edit conflict if an "old style user" is editing the page at the same time.
But doesn't that defeat the purpose, to some extent?
On 9/5/06, Erik Moeller eloquence@gmail.com wrote:
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Only to some extent... figuring out metadata about saved versions with synchronized editing is more fun. And it's easier to track who authored which characters with that kind of richer interface. SJ
On 9/5/06, Akash Mehta draicone@gmail.com wrote:
But doesn't that defeat the purpose, to some extent?
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On 9/5/06, Milos Rancic millosh@mutualaid.org wrote:
Hehe... I started to think as a company's manager: may we give to our users some more services so we can make our growth better? ;)
Sure. Better community-development tools (basic optional profiling), better skin options (more than one functional skin with support), better interface options (list of last-visited pages, top-of-watchlist available as part of the sidebar), better editing options (click on a paragraph for simple wysiwyg editing without a new page-load).... "email this page/image to a friend" options for trusted users... better dump options for those wanting to do their own thing with subsets of WP content (say, running an xml parser on dumps and providing the resultset)
On 9/5/06, SJ 2.718281828@gmail.com wrote:
On 9/5/06, Milos Rancic millosh@mutualaid.org wrote:
Hehe... I started to think as a company's manager: may we give to our users some more services so we can make our growth better? ;)
Sure. Better community-development tools (basic optional profiling), better skin options (more than one functional skin with support), better interface options (list of last-visited pages, top-of-watchlist available as part of the sidebar), better editing options (click on a paragraph for simple wysiwyg editing without a new page-load).... "email this page/image to a friend" options for trusted users... better dump options for those wanting to do their own thing with subsets of WP content (say, running an xml parser on dumps and providing the resultset)
I mean: blog inside of user space; possibility to write papers (original research) inside of user space and to link it from Wikipedia articles; better organization of user space; better permissions inside of MediaWiki; something like writely.com: user should have a possibility to write an article/paper inside of her/his user space and to announce it just to couple of people for reading or reading and writing; email@wikipedia.org + webmail interface inside of MW; calendar integrated into MW or good templates for calendars.
I was not talking about better primary attributes of MW :)
On 9/5/06, Milos Rancic millosh@mutualaid.org wrote:
On 9/5/06, SJ 2.718281828@gmail.com wrote:
On 9/5/06, Milos Rancic millosh@mutualaid.org wrote:
Hehe... I started to think as a company's manager: may we give to our users some more services so we can make our growth better? ;)
Sure. Better community-development tools (basic optional profiling), better skin options (more than one functional skin with support), better interface options (list of last-visited pages, top-of-watchlist available as part of the sidebar), better editing options (click on a paragraph for simple wysiwyg editing without a new page-load).... "email this page/image to a friend" options for trusted users... better dump options for those wanting to do their own thing with subsets of WP content (say, running an xml parser on dumps and providing the resultset)
I mean: blog inside of user space; possibility to write papers (original research) inside of user space and to link it from Wikipedia articles; better organization of user space; better permissions inside of MediaWiki; something like writely.com: user should have a possibility to write an article/paper inside of her/his user space and to announce it just to couple of people for reading or reading and writing; email@wikipedia.org + webmail interface inside of MW; calendar integrated into MW or good templates for calendars.
I was not talking about better primary attributes of MW :) _______________________________________________ Wikipedia-l mailing list Wikipedia-l@Wikimedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l
Let's all remember that we don't need to achieve any particular Alexa ranking. It's good to be a popular site, but that's the result of working to achieve the mission; it's not the mission itself.
-Rich [[W:en:User:Rholton]]
On 06/09/06, Richard Holton richholton@gmail.com wrote:
Let's all remember that we don't need to achieve any particular Alexa ranking. It's good to be a popular site, but that's the result of working to achieve the mission; it's not the mission itself.
We're too popular for our own good as it is.
- d.
Daniel Mayer wrote:
--- Milos Rancic millosh@mutualaid.org wrote:
Ebay is at 11th place and Wikipedia is at 16th place, but, Wikipedia has better daily reach per million from March/June 2006:
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?compare_sites=ebay.com&...
Interesting thing is that Wikipedia is backed to exponential growth on Alexa.
Indeed. That whole Seigenthaler incident and then the Nature article really saturated several months worth of growth in a short time. Now we are trending up again. That's good. But that also means we may need a fundraiser before long.
-- mav
Hoi, Every year there has been growth at the beginning of the school year.. The summer is over for many kids.. Thanks, GerardM
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