Helga

Now now tell what's wrong the contributions. There is (new) info in the articles submitted by 66.47.62.78, feel free to edit them. Other article submitted by "well minded" contributors are not better neither (German articles on Goethe or Tieck); also consider to ban respective contributors, too (in case of Tieck, that's me). -- | ,__o http://www.gnu.franken.de/ke/ | _-\_<, ke(a)suse.de (work) / keichwa(a)gmx.net (home) | (*)/'(*)

Kurt Jansson

24 May 24 May

2:06 a.m.

Karl Eichwalder schrieb:

...

Kurt Jansson <jansson(a)gmx.net> writes:

Has her banning been lifted (right word?)?

Now now tell what's wrong the contributions.

I'm not arguing for or against the banning. I'm just asking because there has been some confusion about it on the German list. A few days ago I took a look at the archive of wikiEN-l. All the discussion about banned users comming back under new accounts frightens me a lot. It's not those users, but the impact which the suspicions have on the community. And the frustration. Kurt

Fred Bauder

10:02 a.m.

...

From: Karl Eichwalder <ke(a)gnu.franken.de> Reply-To: wikipedia-l(a)wikipedia.org Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 01:54:19 +0200 To: wikipedia-l(a)wikipedia.org Subject: [Wikipedia-l] Re: Helga Kurt Jansson <jansson(a)gmx.net> writes:

Helga is activ again: http://www.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Special:Contributions&targe… 7.62.78 http://de.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Spezial:Contributions&target… .62.78

One cannot "ban" a user resp. the IP address in aeternum.

Has her banning been lifted (right word?)?

Now now tell what's wrong the contributions. There is (new) info in the articles submitted by 66.47.62.78, feel free to edit them.

If it is Helga (unless she's changed) she'll take an archaic German Nationalist view that focuses on the Eastern territories that were lost and stick like a tick to that viewpoint. Modifying any of her articles will set off an edit war. Fred

...

Other article submitted by "well minded" contributors are not better neither (German articles on Goethe or Tieck); also consider to ban respective contributors, too (in case of Tieck, that's me). -- | ,__o http://www.gnu.franken.de/ke/ | _-\_<, ke(a)suse.de (work) / keichwa(a)gmx.net (home) | (*)/'(*) _______________________________________________ Wikipedia-l mailing list Wikipedia-l(a)wikipedia.org http://www.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l

Jens Frank

11:09 a.m.

On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 04:02:08AM -0600, Fred Bauder wrote:

...

Kurt Jansson <jansson(a)gmx.net> writes:

Helga is activ again: http://www.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Special:Contributions&targe… 7.62.78 http://de.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Spezial:Contributions&target… .62.78

One cannot "ban" a user resp. the IP address in aeternum.

Has her banning been lifted (right word?)?

Now now tell what's wrong the contributions. There is (new) info in the articles submitted by 66.47.62.78, feel free to edit them.

Yes, it is her. Yes, it is still the Eastern territories. Yes, she still insists on calling every city by its German name. AFAIK her ban has not been lifted. She should have applied to Jimbo prior to coming back. JeLuF

Karl Eichwalder

12:15 p.m.

Jens Frank <JeLuF(a)gmx.de> writes:

...

Yes, it is her. Yes, it is still the Eastern territories. Yes, she still insists on calling every city by its German name.

In de.wikipedia.org? In the German version the German name are not wrong, though. Okay, "Königsberg" is arguable, but there are residents (Russian!) in Kaliningrad who want to have back the "old" name. Read "Die Zeit", last week. "Die Zeit" is a trustworthy German newspaper. Things aren't that easy as they might look at the first glance. -- | ,__o http://www.gnu.franken.de/ke/ | _-\_<, ke(a)suse.de (work) / keichwa(a)gmx.net (home) | (*)/'(*)

Fred Bauder

12:54 p.m.

That all sounds rather Teutonic ; Anyway it is your business, not ours, Helga is a nuisance on English wikipedia. If you're happy with her, fine. Fred

...

From: Karl Eichwalder <ke(a)gnu.franken.de> Reply-To: wikipedia-l(a)wikipedia.org Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 14:15:47 +0200 To: wikipedia-l(a)wikipedia.org Subject: [Wikipedia-l] Re: Helga Jens Frank <JeLuF(a)gmx.de> writes:

Yes, it is her. Yes, it is still the Eastern territories. Yes, she still insists on calling every city by its German name.

Jimmy Wales

25 May 25 May

7:07 p.m.

No, Helga is not welcome to edit any wikipedia, she is banned. If she wishes to start again, the same offer stands as always -- she can email me and chat about it. --Jimbo

7647

days inactive

7649

days old

wikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Manage subscription

7 comments

5 participants

tags (0)

participants (5)

Fred Bauder
Jens Frank
Jimmy Wales
Karl Eichwalder
Kurt Jansson