2007/10/28, Majorly <axel9891(a)googlemail.com>om>: [[User:Robbot]] -- Andre Engels, andreengels(a)gmail.com ICQ: 6260644 -- Skype: a_engels

2007/10/28, Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton(a)gmail.com>om>: It has been blocked, and in fact at os: it is currently blocked. -- Andre Engels, andreengels(a)gmail.com ICQ: 6260644 -- Skype: a_engels

...this is Wikipedia-l, *not* WikiEN-l. On 10/28/07, Vee <vee.be.me(a)gmail.com> wrote: -- Casey Brown Cbrown1023 --- Note: This e-mail address is used for mailing lists. Personal emails sent to this address will probably get lost.

On 29/10/2007, Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton(a)gmail.com> wrote: PS Especially if they are writing in English.

On 29/10/2007, GerardM <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> wrote: Plenty of people discuss the English Wikipedia on the generic mailing list. Most people using other language projects specify which one they are talking about. It's generally only people talking about the English Wikipedia that forget to specify, thus it is a good assumption.

On 29/10/2007, GerardM <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> wrote: I agree with the first sentence. I don't know what you mean by the second. It's not a matter of opinion, it's simple logic. When most people mean something a particular way, it is generally helpful to assume everyone does (the alternative is always asking for clarification, which takes longer. If you assume, you'll generally be right and can answer straight away, and when you're wrong people usually clarify anyway, so it makes no difference). You'll note that I was the one that thought to clarify when things weren't making sense.

On 29/10/2007, Majorly <axel9891(a)googlemail.com> wrote: I've far as I'm concerned, that topic has been addressed. I don't think there's really anything more to say about it. Might as well use this thread for something else now...

If it had been blocked, it would be in the block log. The block log is empty. At least, it is on the English Wikipedia - we are talking about the English Wikipedia, yes? I expect the IP address is blocked - the block message will tell you.

You don't think it would, perhaps, be useful to tell us which one it is, then? I don't know about other languages, but the English Wikipedia has a bot policy that determines when bots are and aren't allowed to edit, and when they get bot flags. I expect other projects have similar policies, and they probably include maximum edit rates for bots without flags, and they probably have a process by which you can request a flag if you want to edit faster than that rate. I can't see any project handing out flags to any account that looks like a bot without the owner requesting it.

2007/10/28, Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton(a)gmail.com>om>: os: at the moment, various others before. Well, the cases I talk about are the bot policy changing from "no bot policy" to "block all non-registered bots at sight." As for requesting bot flags: I still don't see why *I* should be the one to request a bot flag for my bot. Perhaps I should ask permission to *run* my bot, but even then I would prefer to get a mention if that's introduced after I have run my bot for several months or years rather than noticing it by having my bot blocked. So here a statement once more: * If I need permission to run my bot on your language, notify me of that. In particular if that need is created after my bot already has run there without problems for months or even years * If you want my bot to have a botflag, I have no objections to that. If you want information or remarks from me, I'm happy to give them * If you want *me* to ask for a botflag, then also explain to me why *I* should ask *you* for something that *you* want -- Andre Engels, andreengels(a)gmail.com ICQ: 6260644 -- Skype: a_engels

This is one of the enhancement requests that is wanted, but will need to be done after SUL. (Yes, it is possible, Wikia has something like this where all users in the "janitor" group have administrator status on whatever Wikia wiki they go on.) On 10/28/07, Oldak Quill <oldakquill(a)gmail.com> wrote: -- Casey Brown Cbrown1023 --- Note: This e-mail address is used for mailing lists. Personal emails sent to this address will probably get lost.

cohesion ha scritto: As soon as it will still be possible for individual projcts to deflag a particular bot, I second the proposal. On it.wiki we have repeatedly denied bot status to CommonsDelinker since too often it delinks only temporary deleted images. We still let it run, but unflagged. Cruccone