I have just added namespace-specific subpage support to Wikipedia.
Thank you so much! A year ago I kept bugging the techies to add this until I finally just gave up on the idea. However, I think the subpages should only be used on the User namespace. If Jimbo disagrees with this then he should delete his user subpages...
Chuck
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On mar, 2003-01-28 at 13:40, Chuck Smith wrote:
Thank you so much! A year ago I kept bugging the techies to add this until I finally just gave up on the idea. However, I think the subpages should only be used on the User namespace. If Jimbo disagrees with this then he should delete his user subpages...
Yes, we have de facto subpages in User:, Talk:, and User talk: (the latter two mostly for talk archives). To not support them without providing and promoting an alternative is, I think, not the best of ideas.
Ideas for alternatives are, of course, welcome.
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
Chuck Smith wrote:
Thank you so much! A year ago I kept bugging the techies to add this until I finally just gave up on the idea. However, I think the subpages should only be used on the User namespace. If Jimbo disagrees with this then he should delete his user subpages...
Wellm the point was not so much the subpages as the magic "/", which would make a backlink to "GNU" on the "GNU/Linux" article and the like.
Just don't tell Larry ;-)
Magnus
Wellm the point was not so much the subpages as the magic "/", which would make a backlink to "GNU" on the "GNU/Linux" article and the like.
It does, in the current implementation (however, if "GNU" does not exist, it does not add a backlink). This was necessary to "grandfather" existing subpages, as Zoe put it. The alternative would be to use another magic character which is currently not allowed in titles, to add an is_subpage flag, or to use a more complex logic that does not store the parent page in the title.
Regards,
Erik
Magnus Manske wrote:
Wellm the point was not so much the subpages as the magic "/", which would make a backlink to "GNU" on the "GNU/Linux" article and the like.
Just don't tell Larry ;-)
Heh, well, I'm pretty sure Eric isn't talking about enabling this for the articles, which I REALLY would think is a bad idea, and I'd have to raise more hell about it for a long time.
He's only talking about the User pages and the Talk pages, right?
Heh, well, I'm pretty sure Eric isn't talking about enabling this for the articles, which I REALLY would think is a bad idea, and I'd have to raise more hell about it for a long time.
He's only talking about the User pages and the Talk pages, right?
That's correct, however, you will still get a backlink to
[[Talk:GNU]]
on
[[Talk:GNU/Linux]].
Without breaking compatibility with existing subpages, the software can't know whether Talk:GNU/Linux is a subpage of Talk:GNU or a separate Talk page.
This is a very rare case, though; I can't think of any other one. If you absoutely want to avoid that single backlink, disable subpages for Talk pages (we can still allow them for User talk pages); however, they are very handy for archiving stuff.
Regards,
Erik
Just to check, you have only written the code so far, right, not enabled this?
Erik Moeller wrote:
Heh, well, I'm pretty sure Eric isn't talking about enabling this for the articles, which I REALLY would think is a bad idea, and I'd have to raise more hell about it for a long time.
He's only talking about the User pages and the Talk pages, right?
That's correct, however, you will still get a backlink to
[[Talk:GNU]]
on
[[Talk:GNU/Linux]].
Without breaking compatibility with existing subpages, the software can't know whether Talk:GNU/Linux is a subpage of Talk:GNU or a separate Talk page.
This is a very rare case, though; I can't think of any other one. If you absoutely want to avoid that single backlink, disable subpages for Talk pages (we can still allow them for User talk pages); however, they are very handy for archiving stuff.
Regards,
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On mar, 2003-01-28 at 16:52, Jimmy Wales wrote:
Just to check, you have only written the code so far, right, not enabled this?
Actually, I stuck it online along with other fixes and updates. If you're terribly offended, we can take it off again. :)
But I'd like to see some feedback from usage first.
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