I see what you mean, I see no reason however for you to put a short line or two description of each winnie the pooh character on the main winnie the pooh page, and then leave a link to a page on each of them so someone can cover them in more detail.
Alex Bradbury
Thesmelialichu@aol.com wrote:
I see what you mean, I see no reason however for you to put a short line or two description of each winnie the pooh character on the main winnie the pooh page, and then leave a link to a page on each of them so someone can cover them in more detail.
I very much believe that Winnie the Pooh could be treated in a single page. Someone who wants to learn more about Winnie should have all the basic information available on that page without having to click on links to stubs. Of the different character pages the one for Christopher Robin is the only one to exceed 500 bytes in length. The main Winnie the Pooh page at 2470 bytes is still fairly modest in length. They should be recombined.
Although my numbers are fairly arbitrary, I would still favour as general rules of thumb: 1. Avoid creating dependent stub articles with fewer than 500 bytes. 2. When considering whether to sub-divide an article a) Don't bother if it has fewer than 10,000 bytes, b) For articles between 10,000 and 20,000 bytes sub-divide if there are reasonable place to sub-divide, c) Actively look for reasonable ways to sub-divide if the article is more than 20,000 bytes long.
If the Winnie article were to exceed 10,000 bytes, a reasonable sub-division might then involve splitting off [[Characters in Winnie the Pooh]] as a block instead of separate articles for each.
Eclecticology
I very much believe that Winnie the Pooh could be treated in a single page. Someone who wants to learn more about Winnie should have all the basic information available on that page without having to click on links to stubs. Of the different character pages the one for Christopher Robin is the only one to exceed 500 bytes in length. The main Winnie the Pooh page at 2470 bytes is still fairly modest in length. They should be recombined.
Although my numbers are fairly arbitrary, I would still favour as general rules of thumb: 1. Avoid creating dependent stub articles with fewer than 500 bytes. 2. When considering whether to sub-divide an article a) Don't bother if it has fewer than 10,000 bytes, b) For articles between 10,000 and 20,000 bytes sub-divide if there are reasonable place to sub-divide, c) Actively look for reasonable ways to sub-divide if the article is more than 20,000 bytes long.
This still leaves the question of what to do once the great amount of pages has been created. The preferable option seems to be (to me) to move the text of the 'sub-pages' to the main page, and change the latter into redirects. However, if there is _one_ page that would reasonably be expected to link to these pages, it is the main page itself. But doing so in this way of combining things, would make these links self-links.
So should we: * just accept that the pages are created, saying "I would not do it, but as they're there, we'll just keep them" * make links on the main page to the characters, even though they will become self-links * not make links on the main page, with the risk that when someone comes and de-redirects the page, the most logical page to do so will not be linking to the page, or * decide that it's better to delete the pages rather than turning them into redirects?
They all have their pros and cons. Anyone a clear preference?
Andre Engels
Andre Engels wrote:
This still leaves the question of what to do once the great amount of pages has been created. The preferable option seems to be (to me) to move the text of the 'sub-pages' to the main page, and change the latter into redirects. However, if there is _one_ page that would reasonably be expected to link to these pages, it is the main page itself. But doing so in this way of combining things, would make these links self-links.
I suggest: * make the character pages into redirects. remove links from the main article. In the talk page of the main article, list the removed links, with a note to the effect that those topics do not yet have enough material to have articles to themselves
Alex Bradbury wrote:
I see what you mean, I see no reason however for you to put a short line or two description of each winnie the pooh character on the main winnie the pooh page, and then leave a link to a page on each of them so someone can cover them in more detail.
This is a good idea, although I would, in general, also l
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