Just to note that. ja:, sv: and sr: have two articles which don't exist on en:
1. Japanese god Hoderi: http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%9B%E3%83%87%E3%83%AA http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoderi http://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A5%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B8
2. Japanes god Hoori: http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%9B%E3%82%AA%E3%83%AA http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoori http://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A5%D0%BE%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8
We have one guy who likes mythology. It seems that there is one more person on sv:
Milos Rancic wrote:
Just to note that. ja:, sv: and sr: have two articles which don't exist on en:
- Japanese god Hoderi:
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%9B%E3%83%87%E3%83%AA http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoderi http://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A5%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B8
- Japanes god Hoori:
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%9B%E3%82%AA%E3%83%AA http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoori http://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A5%D0%BE%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8
Only two articles on ja: do not have an equivalent on en: ? That is just a small number. There is 100's if not 1000's that do not have equivalents on en: I know because I am responsible for at least 40 or 50 or so :)
Walter/Waerth
On 6/6/05, Walter van Kalken walter@vankalken.net wrote:
Only two articles on ja: do not have an equivalent on en: ? That is just a small number. There is 100's if not 1000's that do not have equivalents on en: I know because I am responsible for at least 40 or 50 or so :)
My suspicion is that what was meant is that two articles had interwiki links at all that did not include English.
-Matt
On 6/8/05, Matt Brown morven@gmail.com wrote:
On 6/6/05, Walter van Kalken walter@vankalken.net wrote:
Only two articles on ja: do not have an equivalent on en: ? That is just a small number. There is 100's if not 1000's that do not have equivalents on en: I know because I am responsible for at least 40 or 50 or so :)
My suspicion is that what was meant is that two articles had interwiki links at all that did not include English.
Yes. (Hmm... My English...) Some time ago, I found one more such article, but I forgot its name. It is not so easy to catch interwiki for articles which don't exist on en:, but it is possible (we did it using IRC for relation sr: - ja:; I don't know for the history of sv: - ja: relation). And I think that it should be noted for history ;)
That's not so surprising in and of itself.
I think what Milos meant is that there are 3 interwiki links, yet none to English.
3 versions without an English version is sort of rare, but the fact that those languages are Japanese, Swedish, and Serbian makes it all the more peculiar.
Mark
On 07/06/05, Milos Rancic millosh@gmail.com wrote:
On 6/8/05, Matt Brown morven@gmail.com wrote:
On 6/6/05, Walter van Kalken walter@vankalken.net wrote:
Only two articles on ja: do not have an equivalent on en: ? That is just a small number. There is 100's if not 1000's that do not have equivalents on en: I know because I am responsible for at least 40 or 50 or so :)
My suspicion is that what was meant is that two articles had interwiki links at all that did not include English.
Yes. (Hmm... My English...) Some time ago, I found one more such article, but I forgot its name. It is not so easy to catch interwiki for articles which don't exist on en:, but it is possible (we did it using IRC for relation sr: - ja:; I don't know for the history of sv:
- ja: relation). And I think that it should be noted for history ;)
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That's not so surprising in and of itself.
I think what Milos meant is that there are 3 interwiki links, yet none to English.
3 versions without an English version is sort of rare, but the fact that those languages are Japanese, Swedish, and Serbian makes it all the more peculiar.
It is not that rare. I am sure I have seen it more often.
Walter/Waerth
For a month or two, I was thinking to introduce barnstars for original works on sr:. I introduced two categories: (1) for original work (in the sense of Wikipedia; the rule is that there is no encyclopedic article on other Wikipedias) and (2) for something which I called "original interwiki work" (this case; article should exist on at least one other Wikipedia, but not on en:).
And I got some results :) Two new articles: one in relation sr-hr, which is not so interesting (I would like not to start with the new-old explanations, so don't ask why ;) ) and one in relation sr-bg, which is more interesting because Bulgarians have to translate text from Serbian into Bulgarian (and vice versa) and it is not so easy for people who don't have philological education.
So, it seems that it is not so rare if we are talking about languages which have some relation. But, relation like ja-sv-sr is not so often :)
I think we should note such events at some page (somewhere on Meta? on en:? ;) ). The first and less important reason is that such article should be added into "requested articles" on en:
It is important to show that Wikipedia is the place where diversities between different people are not forced to be unified into "one language world". At least.
This two articles are:
1) sr-hr, about Stojan Novakovic, Serbian politician, historican and philologist:
http://hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stojan_Novakovi%C4%87 http://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%98%D0%B0%D0%BD_%D0%9D%D0%...
2) sr-bg, about Slobodan Jovanovic, Serbian politician, historian and novelist (and president of Serbian Academy):
http://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%B... http://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%B...
On 6/8/05, Walter van Kalken walter@vankalken.net wrote:
Mark Williamson wrote:
That's not so surprising in and of itself.
I think what Milos meant is that there are 3 interwiki links, yet none to English.
3 versions without an English version is sort of rare, but the fact that those languages are Japanese, Swedish, and Serbian makes it all the more peculiar.
It is not that rare. I am sure I have seen it more often.
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Incidentally, there is now a Bosnian version of both articles ;p
Mark
On 06/06/05, Milos Rancic millosh@gmail.com wrote:
Just to note that. ja:, sv: and sr: have two articles which don't exist on en:
- Japanese god Hoderi:
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%9B%E3%83%87%E3%83%AA http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoderi http://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A5%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B8
- Japanes god Hoori:
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%9B%E3%82%AA%E3%83%AA http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoori http://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A5%D0%BE%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8
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On 6/8/05, Mark Williamson node.ue@gmail.com wrote:
Incidentally, there is now a Bosnian version of both articles ;p
as well as ho-ori in Dutch
Finne
Both exist in Portugese, too :)
On 6/8/05, Finne Boonen hennar@gmail.com wrote:
On 6/8/05, Mark Williamson node.ue@gmail.com wrote:
Incidentally, there is now a Bosnian version of both articles ;p
as well as ho-ori in Dutch
Finne
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Hoderi on hr: :) The article is added by persion who added it on bs:
On 6/8/05, Milos Rancic millosh@gmail.com wrote:
Both exist in Portugese, too :)
On 6/8/05, Finne Boonen hennar@gmail.com wrote:
On 6/8/05, Mark Williamson node.ue@gmail.com wrote:
Incidentally, there is now a Bosnian version of both articles ;p
as well as ho-ori in Dutch
Finne
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Specially for Mark who seems so surprised about articles linking amongst other languages but without an equivalent on english pedia!
http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernardus_Johannes_Alfrink
There are probably 100's if not 1000's of these! On nl alone we have a couple of 1000 articles without english equivalent.
Waerth
Walter van Kalken wrote:
Sorry Walter, but that one just received the missing interwiki link the original author forgot to add. Now you have to find a new example :-)
Andy [[en:User:Ahoerstemeier]]
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New bot idea: * For an atricle with interwiki links * that does *not* have an image * check all interwiki links if they have an image * Make a list like
"* [[:de:Zeug]] has no image, but its equivalent at [[:en:Stuff]] does"
Then go and upload suitable images on commons, and add them to the imageless articles.
Magnus
Andreas Hoerstemeier schrieb:
Walter van Kalken wrote:
Sorry Walter, but that one just received the missing interwiki link the original author forgot to add. Now you have to find a new example :-)
Andy [[en:User:Ahoerstemeier]]
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"* [[:de:Zeug]] has no image, but its equivalent at [[:en:Stuff]] does" Then go and upload suitable images on commons, and add them to the imageless articles. Magnus
It would also have to check the license first.
On Wed, 8 Jun 2005, Andreas Hoerstemeier wrote:
Walter van Kalken wrote:
Sorry Walter, but that one just received the missing interwiki link the original author forgot to add. Now you have to find a new example :-)
it: has about 8,000 articles about italian administrative regions, kinda like Rambot entries. pt: has recently added the same 8,000 articles.
Interwikis are being added to some of these articles. So there are lots of articles with interwikis between it: and pt:, but no other wikipedia. For example:
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sant%27Anastasia http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pollena_Trocchia http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peccioli http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottaviano_%28NA%29
(most are stub articles)
Alfio
it: has about 8,000 articles about italian administrative regions, kinda like Rambot entries. pt: has recently added the same 8,000 articles.
Wouldn't it be good to run the same bot also at en:?
On Thu, 9 Jun 2005, Pawel 'Ausir' Dembowski wrote:
it: has about 8,000 articles about italian administrative regions, kinda like Rambot entries. pt: has recently added the same 8,000 articles.
Wouldn't it be good to run the same bot also at en:?
I don't know if pt: used a bot. The Italian articles were added semi-manually, copying&pasting into the edit box a pre-generated text and modifying some numbers by hand.
Alfio
Waerth, you must have confused me with somebody else.
I am not surprised, on the contrary this is very expected...
Mark
On 08/06/05, Walter van Kalken walter@vankalken.net wrote:
Specially for Mark who seems so surprised about articles linking amongst other languages but without an equivalent on english pedia!
http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernardus_Johannes_Alfrink
There are probably 100's if not 1000's of these! On nl alone we have a couple of 1000 articles without english equivalent.
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There are many Polish articles linked to German equivalents and vice-versa.
That would be me... I added "Bog" to bs: as well, although I'm not sure how it would integrate with the article [[Alah]]
Mark
On 08/06/05, Milos Rancic millosh@gmail.com wrote:
Hoderi on hr: :) The article is added by persion who added it on bs:
On 6/8/05, Milos Rancic millosh@gmail.com wrote:
Both exist in Portugese, too :)
On 6/8/05, Finne Boonen hennar@gmail.com wrote:
On 6/8/05, Mark Williamson node.ue@gmail.com wrote:
Incidentally, there is now a Bosnian version of both articles ;p
as well as ho-ori in Dutch
Finne
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