Hi everyone,
some weeks ago I came across a proposal to allow for the inclusion of macros from commons. This would mean e.g. that it would no longer be neccessary to replicate babel templates between the wikipedias.
The other benefit that was proposed was the simplification of interwiki links.
One would simply define a template:interwiki_english_article_name with the complete list of interwiki links. Then all those other languages would just have to add {{interwiki_english_article_name}} at the bottom.
For the transformation one would need a special robot, but after that we would no longer need the interwiki robots and all the interwiki links would always be up-to-date.
Are there any plans to make this possible?
Kind regards,
Heiko Evermann
Heiko Evermann napisał:
One would simply define a template:interwiki_english_article_name with the complete list of interwiki links. Then all those other languages would just have to add {{interwiki_english_article_name}} at the bottom.
There would be one problem - the list would include the language of the Wikipedia you use it in, so if I included such list at, say, Polish Wikipedia, I'd get a "pl:Polish title" in bold.
On 3/20/06, Paweł Dembowski fallout@lexx.eu.org wrote:
Heiko Evermann napisał:
One would simply define a template:interwiki_english_article_name with
the
complete list of interwiki links. Then all those other languages would
just
have to add {{interwiki_english_article_name}} at the bottom.
There would be one problem - the list would include the language of the Wikipedia you use it in, so if I included such list at, say, Polish Wikipedia, I'd get a "pl:Polish title" in bold.
There are another couple of problems: en.wiki does not have all the entries about every possible topic dealt in wikipedia, and there is not necessarily one to one correspondence between different projects (Entry x in wiki A may just be part of entry y in wiki B). Thus I don't think it's a good idea.
Cruccone
Hi Marco,
There would be one problem - the list would include the language of the Wikipedia you use it in, so if I included such list at, say, Polish Wikipedia, I'd get a "pl:Polish title" in bold.
Right. This would require a small change in the software: just do not treat an interwiki link to one's own wikipedia in a special way. Just present them like all others. Or just filtr it out centrally.
There are another couple of problems: en.wiki does not have all the entries about every possible topic dealt in wikipedia, and there is not necessarily one to one correspondence between different projects (Entry x in wiki A may just be part of entry y in wiki B). Thus I don't think it's a good idea.
I wonder why this is not a problem today. The interwiki robots seem to be making a good job today. And if there is no entry for a topic in en.wiki, then why not start an interwiki ring in another language? As soon as en.wiki wants to join, it would be possible. I do not see the problem.
Kind regards,
Heiko Evermann
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Hi Heiko, interwiki robots do a very good job indeed, but they do need some form of human control to solve ambiguities. I run one of these bots, and I can say it's definitely not 100% smooth. The bot "pilot" has to choose whenever more than one alternative is present.
There are another couple of problems: en.wiki does not have all the
entries about every possible topic dealt in wikipedia, and there is not necessarily one to one correspondence between different projects (Entry x in wiki A may just be part of entry y in wiki B). Thus I don't think it's a good idea.
I wonder why this is not a problem today. The interwiki robots seem to be making a good job today. And if there is no entry for a topic in en.wiki, then why not start an interwiki ring in another language? As soon as en.wiki wants to join, it would be possible. I do not see the problem.
Cruccone
See also http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/4547.
Heiko Evermann wrote:
Hi everyone,
some weeks ago I came across a proposal to allow for the inclusion of macros from commons. This would mean e.g. that it would no longer be neccessary to replicate babel templates between the wikipedias.
The other benefit that was proposed was the simplification of interwiki links.
One would simply define a template:interwiki_english_article_name with the complete list of interwiki links. Then all those other languages would just have to add {{interwiki_english_article_name}} at the bottom.
For the transformation one would need a special robot, but after that we would no longer need the interwiki robots and all the interwiki links would always be up-to-date.
Are there any plans to make this possible?
Kind regards,
Heiko Evermann
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