Just as I was about to sign off, I see this from Mark Christensen. Apologies, but I can't let this go unanswered: I certainly do not want it to be thought generally that I am willing to abuse the list for irrational personal reasons.

From: Mark Christensen mchristensen@HTEC.com I for one don't appreciate this list being used to make personal attacks.

I disagree that it was properly characterizable as "a personal attack." *Trolls* would certainly want to call the naming and shaming of trolls "personal attacks" of course; but that implies that the purpose of the post would be *merely* to vent spleen, and not naming and shaming. That is not the case here. I am motivated by a *very* strong desire to see that trolls be treated properly, viz., as trolls; I know, from long experience (before Wikipedia was ever thought of), that if given proper attention and respect, trolls can inflict considerable damage to a community. The first step is to name and shame the trolls. If you disagree that a person in question is a troll, that is your prerogative; but you should not accuse *me* of engaging in mere personal attacks, because that implies that *we could all agree* there were no more to it than that. Obviously, we cannot all agree that there is more to it than that.

I don't know what exactly you are trying to do by making accusations about Cunctator, and frankly I don't care. I just don't want to see this stuff on the list.

I respect your right to give your opinion on that subject. Given my position, I obviously must think you are misled, however.

OK, as I said, I'm done here. Mark, if you want, please have the last word.

Larry