What I don't understand is how the Baltic states can be so unyielding
to linguistic minorities. After what they went through under Soviet
occupation as regards their own national languages, you would think
they'd be a little more understanding. But apparently not.
Mark
On 17/10/06, Jüvä Sullõv <juvasul(a)ut.ee> wrote:
Dear Angela, Arns, Mark and others,
bat-ltg like proposed in Latgalian test wiki
http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Test-wp/ltg
would be an ideal code for Latgalian Wikipedia.
Like bat-smg is perfect for Samogitian
and fiu-vro is currently perfect for Võro.
I have long personal contacts with Latgalian language activists and researchers and I
know a bit the history of Latgalian.
Of course Latgalian is not merely a dialect of Latvian. Latgalian has long history of
its own literary language and it has been the second official language of Latvia in
1920-s. Later Latvian nationalist goverment of Ulmanis prohibited any official use of
Latgalian. Latvian authorities still refuse to recognize Latgalian as a separate
language. But it is exactly the same case as with Võro in Estonia and with Samogitian
in Lithuania, and with many other languages which despite it already have their own
Wikipedia.
Ethnologue (with its location and interests) is too far from us, it just does not know
the real situation of regional languages of the Baltic countries. And maibe Latgalian
activists have been also a bit modest to inform the World about their language.
Actually Latgalian is the only regional or minority language in Latvia that is vital
enough to have its own wikipedia, because the other small language of Latvia (Finno-
Ugric) Livonian is too small and in fact extinct.
Anyway Latgalian can be definitely considered as a language and it deserves and needs
its own Wikipedia.
See more about Latgalian:
http://www.geocities.com/latgalian/
Jüvä Sullõv/Sulev Iva
(Võrok from Võro Wikipedia)
17.10.2006 11:24:41, "Mark Williamson" <node.ue(a)gmail.com> kirot':
It's considered a dialect of Latvian by the
Ethnologue.
But they're known to have very unreliable information in many cases.
They even list Yinglish as a language when it's not even a dialect or
sociolect, merely a group of code-switching phenomena (mostly. see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yinglish ), while they neglect to even
mention Singlish, the creole language spoken natively by most young
Singaporeans.
Mark
On 17/10/06, GerardM <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hoi,
The code bat is a "collective code" for Baltic (other). Latgalian however is
considered a dialect of Latvian and therefore it is not "other".
http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=lav
http://www.sil.org/iso639-3/documentation.asp?id=bat
Thanks,
GerardM
On 10/17/06, Angela <beesley(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 10/17/06, GerardM <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Hoi,
> According to Ethnologue Latgalian is a dialect of Latvian. From my point
of
> view, there is not even a proposed code to be used for your proposed
> Wikipedia that would be acceptable. Acceptable would be something like
> "lv-latg" or "lav-latg" ..
There's a test wiki at
http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Test-wp/ltg
The code bat-ltv has been suggested.
Angela
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