Hi, Timwi and Brion,
Being blocked from making modest experimental contibutions is not a big issue after all, so forget it. But if it happens to other people in the Huwiki as well, you will not have the discussions going on any term, a proposition that can be easily asserted by looking at the number of contributors for each item/term. And in that case the number of potential wikipedians will not grow in HUW, and neither will the number of entries properly produced. On the other hand, if HUWP is a one man show only, it must be no fun for any other volunteers either Also, seeing that huge amount of work you have already put in the Works, I wonder whether anybody in this forum is willing to discuss some related and maybe topical questions of alternative methods of "creating verbal buildings" - not to cause a problem or discourage the participants, but to show how wikipedia or anything of that sort could be different from a traditional book form and using currently non-dyamic paradigm to describe knowledge.
Ferenc Kovacs
----- Original Message ----- From: "Timwi" timwi@gmx.net To: wikipedia-l@wikipedia.org Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 7:05 PM Subject: [Wikipedia-l] Re: contributions to HU wiki
Brion Vibber wrote:
It starts with an ad hominem attack ("censoring").
Hi Brion,
of course, all you say is kind of true, and I understand you found the initial message a little vague. But at the same time, I must frankly say that I find your handling of this case rather cold and inconsiderate. You dismiss it as "not a problem" simply because there is not enough information *to you* to conclude that there is a problem.
You don't seem to have any idea what it is like to be completely at the mercy of someone who is in a position of greater power, who abuses that power and is unwillig to grant it to others, who is extremely difficult to convince of anything other than what is already their opinion, etc. It feels like an insurmountable wall, and every time you slightly kick it, a brick hits you on the head. I have been to several volunteer projects across the Internet where a situation similar to this was at work, and it's extremely disappointing and frustrating when there are higher-ups who just don't care, much less act.
Timwi
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