From: Matt R <matt_crypto(a)yahoo.co.uk>
Reply-To: wikipedia-l(a)Wikimedia.org
To: wikipedia-l(a)Wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Internal Radio
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:03:09 +0100 (BST)
--- Wouter Steenbeek <musiqolog(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>From: Matt R <matt_crypto(a)yahoo.co.uk>
>Reply-To: wikipedia-l(a)Wikimedia.org
>To: wikipedia-l(a)Wikimedia.org
>Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Internal Radio
>Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:54:44 +0100 (BST)
>
>--- Wouter Steenbeek <musiqolog(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >Wouter wrote:
> > > > Suppose, by comparision, that I suggested for fun that orthodox
>Muslims
> > >were
> > > > right in saying homosexuals should be executioned. I don't think
>that
> > >would
> > > > make you smile; in your position, I would ask for immediate
removal
>of
> > >the
> > > > offender from the mailing list and permanent blocking on
Wikipedia.
>
>Why on earth should such a person be blocked?
>
>-- Matt
Because I would take it serious and don't want people with this and
similar
views to edit Wikipedia.
Why shouldn't people with such views edit Wikipedia? What about NPOV
(Neutral
Point of View)?
NPOV has its limits, Matt. Such persons would probably start modfiing
pages
like [[Homosexuality]], [[Sexuality]], [[Osama
bin Laden]], [[George
Bush]]
etc etc, just because extremists cannot
distinguish fact and opinion. Of
course, they cannot be removed after a lot of such violations.
We should welcome extremists modifying such pages, as long as they follow
our
policies (like NPOV). I don't see how we should exclude editors because of
what
they think. We can exclude them if they edit in violation of our policies,
of
course. But remember that it is quite possible for editors to hold extreme
views, even views that you may find obnoxious, and yet still be a moderate
and
valuable Wikipedia contributor.
I guess you're right. As long as they write according to NPOV, it doesn't
matter. Actually my original point was not that people with certain
persuations /should/ be blocked, but that a joke like the one I sketched
earlier today would make me so angry that I would ask for the person's
immediate removal and blocking. This will do.
Wouter
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