Hi Mark,
Thank you for good advises! Actually the temporary Võro off-site Wikipedia already exists as a group of test pages in Wikimedia: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Test-wp/fiu-vro/ (now with about 15 articles). Fully translated Võro language interface is available: http://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/LanguageVR.php or http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/attachment.cgi?id=418&action=view. And of course I will continue what I'm doing :)
Sulev
9.06.2005 1:25:39, Mark Williamson node.ue@gmail.com kirot':
Hi Sulev,
Whether or not it's hard to begin a new Wikipedia really depends.
Tumbuka was created very rapidly with very little discussion, and now lies totally inactive with under 50 pages (more like 17).
The people who requested its creation simply floated away after they got what they wanted.
Os.wikipedia was requested around the same time as the Võro kiil` Wikipedia, but it was created sooner. One possible reason is that they had an off-site Ossetic version of Wikipedia that they set up, which might've helped increase the apparent urgency for a developer (the sooner you set it up, the less likely they are to remain at a separate website, etc).
Sometimes Wikipedias are created quickly and with little or no fuss, and other times they take a very long time and have lots of argument.
My recommendations: Set up an off-site "Võro kiilne Vikipeedia" (?), possibly with the help of Amikeco (I don't know if he's willing to help or not). Once you have 30~50 articles there and a fully translated interface, ask a developer to create the Voro Wikipedia. If they hesitate tell them about the off-site version, and if nothing happens just keep doing what you're doing on your off-site free-encyclopaedia with the same name.
I don't know if it's exactly legal to use the name "wikipedia" for an off-site version, in fact I'm betting it's not, but the foundation has plenty of more important things to worry about than costly legal battles over whether or not such sites should be able to use the name, especially if it's only temporary.
Mark
On 08/06/05, Sulev Iva juvasul@ut.ee wrote:
Hi Arns,
I'm happy to see activity on Samogitian language modernization. You have very good article about Samogitian in enWikipedia. I think Samogitian is worth to have its own Wikipedia. You should add your request to http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages But it seems to be very hard to establish Wikipedia in a new language. I requested for creating Võro language Wikipedia in January and there are very many other wikis that are waiting to be created, but as much as I know only one - Ossetian Wikipedia - has been created in this year. So you must be ready for very long waiting. Good luck to Samogitian!
Your (almost) neighbour from Võromaa (South Estonia) Sulev Iva
5.06.2005 18:18:30, Zordsdavini iz Litvy zordsdavini@gmail.com kirot':
hello world, I want to start new language (Samogitian) in wikipedia. Where are about 0.5 million samogitians in west Lithuania and about another 0.5 million understand. The 3 letter language code for Samogitian could be "smg" so the URL should be http://smg.wikipedia.org. I am a native speaker and know the requirement for samogitian in web. It would be good start for computerisation this language :-D
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