Speaking of sysop acc'tability.
Currently, policy on most Wikis means that people are only likely to
be desysopped if they commit very gross breaches of policy.
Just being generally grumpy, coming close to the line between what's
OK and what's not, and other behaviours which are probably not good
for a sysop to exhibit, will not usually get you desysopped.
In some cases, you may get desysopped not because you've done anything
wrong but because a lynchmob came after you.
Mark
On 14/09/05, steve v <vertigosteve(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
IAC, even if policy isnt prohibitive, the number of
sysops on any wiki is an extreme reduction in the
available pool of edits in open editing. Unless there
is some great liberalization in granting sysop trust,
which seems to kind of contradict recent discussion
about claimed problems with sysop accountability.
Jamie on Mediawiki-l says that there is some code in
1.5 which AIUI might allow for gradations in page
protection (sysops, logged-in, anons etc) --or was he
talking about an aspect of the validation
/confirmed-version method?
SV
--- Erik Moeller <erik_moeller(a)gmx.de> wrote:
Anthere:
This is only true if there is no social norm
forbidding a sysop to edit
a protected page. At least, on the english and
french wikipedia, I do
think the rule of no-edit on a protected page
exist. Maybe not on all
projects ? Can you from your data gather such an
information ? I mean,
are there situations when a long-protected
article
actually grow and
evolve during the protection ?
I can't automatically check it with the current
script, though I could
theoretically check for each article how many
revisions there have been
after the protected one. On the German Wikipedia,
the general pattern
seems to be that the article simply "dies" after the
protection, with
the exception of a few minor edits by sysops, like
these:
http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=B%C3%BCrgerrechtsbewegung_Solidar…
http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Verlag_Heinz_Heise&diff=67600…
http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=P%C3%A4dophilie&diff=6769462&…
http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Erich_Honecker&diff=7926076&a…
http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vertreibung&diff=9105694&…
http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Egon_Krenz&diff=6801089&o…
> These are often requested on the talk
page, and
> sysops seem to stay away
> from controversial edits to protected pages. In that
> way, I don't think
> the German Wikipedia is fundamentally different from
> any other, it's
> just that the number of pages where sysops have to
> act as gatekeepers
> for long periods of time is[*] far larger.
> Speculating, I think this
> must give a different impression of the role and
> importance of sysops to
> newcomers.
> [*] For the record, admins Bdk and
APPER have now
> unprotected many of
> the affected pages on the German Wikipedia. I'll
> re-run the script in a
> week and report the results here.
> Erik
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