That's all fine with me, but for a problem like this there's still no
end in sight.
Is there a vote? Is it taken to the board (my preference)? Does
everyone have to agree, and if they don't it just isn't created?
Does there have to be a native speaker / fluent speaker, or just
people interested in the language?? Actually, does there have to be a
certain number of native speakers / fluent speakers?
5 supporters seems to be the current standard. Do any of them have to
be native speakers? Do /all/ of them have to be native speakers?
I don't think we should definite cases where a Wikipedia *will* be
created, but I think we should define those cases in which it won't,
to reduce confusion and keep people aware of what not to do.
Mark
On 15/07/05, Angela <beesley(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 7/15/05, Gerard Meijssen
<gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> wrote:
[...]
The sad thing is that Mark has some
valid points to make, points that are drowned out by the torrent of
e-mails that he sends to make these points.
Mark does have valid points, which is why I have objected to him being
blocked from the list. He does a lot of research into languages in
order to post about them, but I am concerned the discussion (not only
Mark's posts) is now getting to the stage where it is doing more harm
than good. As I mentioned on meta earlier today
(<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Requests_for_new_languages#Discussion_isn.27t_always_a_good_thing>),
the amount of discussion surrounding language requests is leading to
it becoming impossible for developers to ascertain when they should be
making a new wiki.
I hope Mark is willing to accept this because if
things go on as they
do, I will ask if it is possible to have him banned from this list.
It isn't only Mark who needs to adapt his behaviour, but everyone
involved in the requests for new languages procedure. I would prefer
if all these language discussions could be kept in one place on Meta,
making it much easier to see when the issues were resolved, and
hopefully making the process to getting a new wiki a little bit
easier. Currently, the requests page asks for a link to the mailing
list discussion, but perhaps this should be coming later, after
discussion between interested parties on the wiki, rather than being
the first step in a new language request.
Angela.
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