Mark Williamson a écrit:
Gerard, this list actually existed previously.
Assuming people like Jimbo, Anthere, and Angela would be subscribed to
it, I don't see why important issues couldn't be discussed on it.
Hi Node.
I was definitly an activist in the *disappearance* of intl-l.
I would be most displeased to see it appear again.
However, if you convince enough people to restore it, that is fine by
me. I am not sure I will read it very often though, and am not convinced
at all I will be able to see the results of discussion over there as
consensus because I do not expect many people to join it.
Generally, when lists are splitted too much, it results either in
* people not joining many lists, hence missing discussions. Unhappiness
resulting from decisions taken by too small a group of people
* or people cc their mails to two or more lists, as they are not sure
they reach all the good people by sending the mail to only one list.
This confusion leads to the multiplication of mails.
The best I would recommand is to keep the number of lists low, and to
use gmane to read your mail instead than receiving it in your mail box.
Anyone not interested in a discussion thread can easily avoid reading
the whole thread.
My opinion.
Anthere
People who are interested in contributing to a
consensus are welcome
to join, obviously. If they don't, that's their choice, as is the case
with any consensus reached at Wikipedia.
So if there is a consensus on intlwiki-l and it isn't opposed by the
board, I don't see what's wrong with it having effect on real issues
(ie, splitting Wikis, merging Wikis, script conversion, new language
Wikis, problems arising in interlanguage situations).
If you are concerned that you won't be a part of this consensus, then
you are welcome to join this list (if it is in fact created).
The purpose of this isn't to create some place where everybody will
agree with me (on the contrary, there are quite a few people who would
definitely be interested in the list that probably wouldn't agree with
my opinion a lot of the time), but rather to solve the problem of
people getting e-mails that they don't want.
Mark
On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 01:18:27 +0100, Gerard Meijssen
<gerardm(a)myrealbox.com> wrote:
Mark,
On the one hand I favour the idea of a seperate mailing list about
languages and all the huha that goes with it. It would mean that some
people could talk to each other endlessly. FINE.
However, however much is discussed there, what does it amount to except
for things having been discussed on this list. What do you expect that a
"consensus" reached on this list means outside of this list ?? The
wikipedia-l is about issues that transcend the concerns of any
particular wikipedia project and therefore things NOT discussed on this
mailinglist and/or on META do not have enough exposure to amount to
something that signify a relevant and adequate consensus.
So, have this list if you must but do consider its worth.
Thanks,
GerardM
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